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jdawginsc 02-07-24 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 23150421)
Seatpost drillium is awesome. Love it.

Also, the Concor is probably my favorite saddle shape.

Paint plans? Go for raw?

Basically, until I decide I don’t really like it, or possibly like it. Then I will come up with some sort of Jdawg-type silliness for the paint job.

I might strip it and let it remain unpainted...or perhaps paint it metallic copper (rattle can), leaving the chrome lugs and pieces.

Lots of parts to move to new homes. Which is good because my puppy might need surgery for a mass.

AdventureManCO 02-07-24 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by jdawginsc (Post 23150427)
Basically, until I decide I don’t really like it, or possibly like it. Then I will come up with some sort of Jdawg-type silliness for the paint job.

I might strip it and let it remain unpainted...or perhaps paint it metallic copper (rattle can), leaving the chrome lugs and pieces.

Lots of parts to move to new homes. Which is good because my puppy might need surgery for a mass.


I’ve got a couple bikes in the raw right now, my ‘87 Ironman and my Trek 990. I am going to advocate for the raw treatment….

1. 20% of the work. No paint prep!
2. No stress of getting paintwork right or wrong
3. No waiting for paint to dry!
4. Still looks awesome, especially a gun blued finish
5. Cost is way less!
6. Uncommon! Higher novelty factor
7. Quite possibly the best secret ‘bike life hack’ I’ve found…you never worry ever again about paint scrapes…ever! Which means you never shy away from riding you bike due to fear of paint scrapes. Which means you get fitter. Which changes your life.


Ya ya ya everyone will scream and cry ‘RUST’ but let’s be honest, this bike probably was already rusting away on the Raleigh showroom floor:innocent::D.

Besides, if one takes care of their bike (how one should!) you will never let it get rusty. It’s not like paint never rusts - my beautiful light green Imron painted Trek has those little rust veins which are a pain. Touch ups - non issue!

Sorry to hear about your pup.

Rick_D 02-07-24 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by hazetguy (Post 23145635)
Firenze GL5000 mixte.
go low, really low, or don't go at all.

https://images.offerup.com/yy2KqKm9A...bcc24ecebc.jpg

Involuntary shudder. Could see that chained to a campus rack for three consecutive semesters, never touched.

AdventureManCO 02-07-24 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Rick_D (Post 23150618)
Involuntary shudder. Could see that chained to a campus rack for three consecutive semesters, never touched.

I DO like how the chain goes through the freewheel, then BACK THROUGH the freewheel before going through the derailleur and continuing on to the chainring:lol: Maybe it was chained to the campus rack for about 38 years?

Andy_K 02-07-24 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 23150441)
I’ve got a couple bikes in the raw right now, my ‘87 Ironman and my Trek 990. I am going to advocate for the raw treatment….

1. 20% of the work. No paint prep!
2. No stress of getting paintwork right or wrong
3. No waiting for paint to dry!
4. Still looks awesome, especially a gun blued finish
5. Cost is way less!
6. Uncommon! Higher novelty factor
7. Quite possibly the best secret ‘bike life hack’ I’ve found…you never worry ever again about paint scrapes…ever! Which means you never shy away from riding you bike due to fear of paint scrapes. Which means you get fitter. Which changes your life.

You forgot weight savings. I heard recently that NASA saved something like 600 pounds when they stopped painting the fuel tank on the space shuttle. For a bike it's more like 150 grams, but that's a big savings by weight weenie standards.

On the other hand, I've seen [MENTION=381793]gugie[/MENTION] ride bikes that he had partially stripped to bare metal for braze ons, and I swear they started rusting before he got home on the first ride.

Drillium Dude had a Colnago and a Casati that he stripped and polished. I think he eventually clear coated the Casati. Rust spiders can actually look pretty nice.

jdawginsc 02-08-24 11:09 AM

The good news is that I think the repaint should be reasonably easy to unpaint.

AdventureManCO 02-08-24 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 23150974)
You forgot weight savings. I heard recently that NASA saved something like 600 pounds when they stopped painting the fuel tank on the space shuttle. For a bike it's more like 150 grams, but that's a big savings by weight weenie standards.

On the other hand, I've seen [MENTION=381793]gugie[/MENTION] ride bikes that he had partially stripped to bare metal for braze ons, and I swear they started rusting before he got home on the first ride.

Drillium Dude had a Colnago and a Casati that he stripped and polished. I think he eventually clear coated the Casati. Rust spiders can actually look pretty nice.


Yes, of course! How could I forget something like that! Even one more reasons RBAB (Raw bikes are better)! I've seen pictures of both DD's Colnago and Casati, and they are fabulous.

jdawginsc 02-08-24 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 23151362)
Yes, of course! How could I forget something like that! Even one more reasons RBAB (Raw bikes are better)! I've seen pictures of both DD's Colnago and Casati, and they are fabulous.

You guys are sort of making up my mind on this one.

AdventureManCO 02-08-24 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by jdawginsc (Post 23151687)
You guys are sort of making up my mind on this one.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b40dfb7176.jpg

jdawginsc 02-09-24 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 23151852)

Haha!

USAZorro 02-09-24 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by jdawginsc (Post 23150427)
Basically, until I decide I don’t really like it, or possibly like it. Then I will come up with some sort of Jdawg-type silliness for the paint job.

I might strip it and let it remain unpainted...or perhaps paint it metallic copper (rattle can), leaving the chrome lugs and pieces.

Lots of parts to move to new homes.
Which is good because my puppy might need surgery for a mass.

Oh no! Your co-pilot is a bundle of sweetness. Hope this ends well.

jdawginsc 02-09-24 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by USAZorro (Post 23152400)
Oh no! Your co-pilot is a bundle of sweetness. Hope this ends well.

Thank you. She IS a sweetheart and full of life.

jdawginsc 02-09-24 07:23 PM

Some decent results on the fork. Lots of elbow grease and Quick glo.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c27bf9fa8.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3f0444b60.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0ec1f63a2.jpeg

jdawginsc 02-15-24 06:36 AM

For posterity’s sake...


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5f40ab172.jpeg

Also,
Original 1972 BB cleaned up well. Another BSA Campy BB. Not sure how I amassed all of those guys. Will be sharing the wealth soon on those.

Headset is soaking as we speak. Looks good but dirty but we shall see.

niliraga 02-15-24 07:45 AM

And a propos of "international graveling", here's what mine currently looks like, wearing 700x40 Marathon Supremes and the ever-dependable Tektros:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aaa8e3d7f1.png

jdawginsc 02-15-24 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by niliraga (Post 23157382)
And a propos of "international graveling", here's what mine currently looks like, wearing 700x40 Marathon Supremes and the ever-dependable Tektros:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aaa8e3d7f1.png

Good to know it fits 40s!

niliraga 02-15-24 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by jdawginsc (Post 23157387)
Good to know it fits 40s!

Pretty sure I could still get fenders in there too - the earlier frames seem to have headroom out the wazoo. Don't have a pic handy of the rear, but these 40s are tight between the chain-stays - just a few mm either side. This frame has the "rapid-taper" stays - suspect the regular crimped stays may have a bit more room to play with?

jdawginsc 02-15-24 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by niliraga (Post 23157561)
Pretty sure I could still get fenders in there too - the earlier frames seem to have headroom out the wazoo. Don't have a pic handy of the rear, but these 40s are tight between the chain-stays - just a few mm either side. This frame has the "rapid-taper" stays - suspect the regular crimped stays may have a bit more room to play with?

I’m still cleaning it up, and getting some bits off to those who asked, and Thelma Beagle just had successful surgery which delayed my futzing around.

i plan on cold setting to 128 (haven’t measured yet), so that should add a slight bit more.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e029578ac.jpeg
Cone of shame shame face
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8c04d3b3.jpeg
Cone of shame questioning face...

AdventureManCO 02-15-24 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by jdawginsc (Post 23157593)
I’m still cleaning it up, and getting some bits off to those who asked, and Thelma Beagle just had successful surgery which delayed my futzing around.

i plan on cold setting to 128 (haven’t measured yet), so that should add a slight bit more.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e029578ac.jpeg
Cone of shame shame face
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8c04d3b3.jpeg
Cone of shame questioning face...


Great to hear!

Looks like she's a bit more chill than our little fireball...


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...90c36fe5c.jpeg

rustystrings61 02-15-24 08:13 PM

Howdy! Before you toss those Weinmann Vainquers, be advised that they are AWESOME on your International's down-scale stablemate, the infamous De Selby, the '73 Raleigh Competition with the dual dingle drive!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cffc75feef.jpg

If you have the "rapid taper" stays, 35s will fit, 38s maybe ... these are 35s.

jdawginsc 02-16-24 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 23158068)
Great to hear!

Looks like she's a bit more chill than our little fireball...


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...90c36fe5c.jpeg

She needed a compression wrap because her movement caused a bit of seepage.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...423741bc5.jpeg

jdawginsc 02-16-24 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by rustystrings61 (Post 23158082)
Howdy! Before you toss those Weinmann Vainquers, be advised that they are AWESOME on your International's down-scale stablemate, the infamous De Selby, the '73 Raleigh Competition with the dual dingle drive!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cffc75feef.jpg

If you have the "rapid taper" stays, 35s will fit, 38s maybe ... these are 35s.

Haven't tried fitting yet. Still inventorying my boxes of stuff, in order to pare down stuff I will never use.

AdventureManCO 02-16-24 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by jdawginsc (Post 23158283)
She needed a compression wrap because her movement caused a bit of seepage.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...423741bc5.jpeg


Sweet ol' gal. Hope she gets better soon.

jdawginsc 02-16-24 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 23159071)
Sweet ol' gal. Hope she gets better soon.

Thank you! She hates the wrap. She thinks it renders her right leg unusable. But the surgery was good, and it looks like no cancer!

jdawginsc 02-16-24 11:30 PM

On the subject of the Raleigh, I think I have the build laid out...sort of. The Andys inspired my creativity.


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