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#102
Mad bike riding scientist




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From: Denver, CO
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Rubber covered stainless steel P-clamps are very stable and don't mar the paint. In my town, they are available in multiple diameters at the commercial marine supply shop, in packages of like 10 for not much money. I'm sure they can also be had via McMaster-Carr or Amazon. Spend more for the stainless steel instead of just plated, it's worth it.

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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#104
aka Tom Reingold




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From: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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#105
Six years of skull sweat, only to find out that I hated being an engineer... story of my life.
--Shannon
#106
aka Tom Reingold




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No worries... I had that crap beaten into my head with the Clue Mallet when I was in EE school, so I'm a bit twitchy. It's the same when I hear reporters say "positive feedback" like it's a good thing. (It isn't. Nuclear explosions are what positive feedback does.)
Six years of skull sweat, only to find out that I hated being an engineer... story of my life.
--Shannon
Six years of skull sweat, only to find out that I hated being an engineer... story of my life.
--Shannon
I have a lot of language pet peeves like yours about positive feedback. It annoys me when people use the word "unique" to mean "unusual," but since it really means one-of-a-kind, at least in mathematics, there are no degrees of uniqueness. Oh well. But sorry about abusing or misusing asymptote.
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
#107
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From: Washington County, Vermont, USA
Bikes: 1966 Dawes Double Blue, 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1975 Raleigh Sprite 27, 1980 Univega Viva Sport, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1984 Lotus Classique, 1976 Motobecane Grand Record
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#108
Senior Member


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From: Washington County, Vermont, USA
Bikes: 1966 Dawes Double Blue, 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1975 Raleigh Sprite 27, 1980 Univega Viva Sport, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1984 Lotus Classique, 1976 Motobecane Grand Record
I just started my fourth career, this time as a school teacher. I've never been great at anything but I'm kinda good at a lot of things. Sometimes I think "those who can, do, those who can't, teach" applies to me. I studied computer science so that means I took a bunch of math. Am I good at it? Not really. Was I good at programming at IT? Well, I was OK but not amazing. I discovered late in life that I have ADHD which explains a lot.
I have a lot of language pet peeves like yours about positive feedback. It annoys me when people use the word "unique" to mean "unusual," but since it really means one-of-a-kind, at least in mathematics, there are no degrees of uniqueness. Oh well. But sorry about abusing or misusing asymptote.
I have a lot of language pet peeves like yours about positive feedback. It annoys me when people use the word "unique" to mean "unusual," but since it really means one-of-a-kind, at least in mathematics, there are no degrees of uniqueness. Oh well. But sorry about abusing or misusing asymptote.
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"Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long."
--Ogden Nash
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"Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long."
--Ogden Nash
#109
George Bernard Shaw wrote (in the play Man and Superman) "He who can, does; he who cannot, teaches." Woody Allen riffed on the Shaw quote in the movie Annie Hall: "Those who can't do, teach; and those who can't teach, teach gym."
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#110
Freewheel Medic



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From: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)
It seems the thread might be devolving into presumptions about profession paths, and not in a positive way. 
Come now C&V friends! Let's keep steering towards the topic at hand, seemingly bad ideas which work.
For instance, who says you can't add Campagnolo to your ancient Schwinn Electro-forged Continental?


Come now C&V friends! Let's keep steering towards the topic at hand, seemingly bad ideas which work.
For instance, who says you can't add Campagnolo to your ancient Schwinn Electro-forged Continental?

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#111
Señor Member



Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Hardy, VA
Bikes: Mostly English - predominantly Raleighs

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In search of what to search for.
In search of what to search for.
#112
Mad bike riding scientist




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From: Denver, CO
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Considering that “those extensions” have been around since the early 80s when Moots introduced “Road Handles”, I think that ship has sailed. They are so old, in fact, that they are currently only on old geezer’s bikes like mine.
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#113
aka Tom Reingold




Joined: Jan 2009
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From: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
I've seen that quip about gym teachers, and I'm sorry to say I used to believe it. It's unkind, and gym teachers are not dumb at all, and in general, neither are other teachers.
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
#115
Bikes are okay, I guess.



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#116
Senior Member


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From: Reno nevada
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#117
Senior Member


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From: Washington County, Vermont, USA
Bikes: 1966 Dawes Double Blue, 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1975 Raleigh Sprite 27, 1980 Univega Viva Sport, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1984 Lotus Classique, 1976 Motobecane Grand Record
Good gosh! I'm married to a retired teacher and have many close friends who were teachers, all of whom I respect deeply. The last thing I meant was to put down the teaching profession in any way. I'm very sorry if I gave that impression.
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#118

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#119
--Shannon
*Looking at this picture, I'm hard pressed to find any Good Ideas... including attempting it in the first place. Which, since he finished the ride, and it's weirdly awesome in a "what the hell was the thought process that led you here?" sort of way, makes it perfect for this thread.
#120
Bikes are okay, I guess.



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... In reverse!
--Shannon
*Looking at this picture, I'm hard pressed to find any Good Ideas... including attempting it in the first place. Which, since he finished the ride, and it's weirdly awesome in a "what the hell was the thought process that led you here?" sort of way, makes it perfect for this thread.
--Shannon
*Looking at this picture, I'm hard pressed to find any Good Ideas... including attempting it in the first place. Which, since he finished the ride, and it's weirdly awesome in a "what the hell was the thought process that led you here?" sort of way, makes it perfect for this thread.
#121
It's rare that jokes can be traced to their point of origin. In this case, it was Woody Allen's joke.
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You are always the same age inside.---Gertrude Stein
My aluminum bikes: Light, strong, cheap, and comfy.
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#122
Senior Member


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From: Washington County, Vermont, USA
Bikes: 1966 Dawes Double Blue, 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1975 Raleigh Sprite 27, 1980 Univega Viva Sport, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1984 Lotus Classique, 1976 Motobecane Grand Record
Yes, I had not known it was Woody Allen--I always thought it was a joke Liz was telling on herself.
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--Ogden Nash
#123
aka Tom Reingold




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Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
It's OK, tolks, no offense taken. Hey, I was the one who brought it up because, as I said, sometimes I feel it applies to me. I think of myself as a jack of many trades and master of none. I hope that makes me useful as a teacher and other things.
As a kid, I thought of my fellow students who liked gym more than the other classes as "dumb," and that was unfair. I wasn't athletically minded at the time. Same goes for gym teachers
As a kid, I thought of my fellow students who liked gym more than the other classes as "dumb," and that was unfair. I wasn't athletically minded at the time. Same goes for gym teachers
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New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
#125
Issac Newton?
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