The decals that I ordered from H. Lloyd on August 17 arrived today(!). No funny stuff.

Now I will need iron nerves to apply them . . .

absolutely great service from Grand Bois, E. Dubie, and FMB, Japan , Germany, and France. It’s dumb that this would happen to our Allies.

A comment on a similar thread from user Lgibjones on The Paceline which makes intuitive sense to me::

Also over there (user Tycom):

Again, it makes intuitive sense to me that all these foreign postal services would stop shipping low-value stuff to the US nearly all at once. None of them had the necessary infrastructure in place to handle this new thing.

Was looking for a Jtek conversion bolt, recessed to nutted, found one for 3.29 euros, then looked at the shipping chart:

Shipping

Country Shipping Costs
Germany € 4,90*
Order value from € 85,- free shipping
Austria € 9,90
EU countries** € 12,90
United Kingdom no UK shipping
Switzerland, Norway € 14,90***
Canada € 27,90***
USA € 89,00***
Australia & New Zealand € 27,90***
Russian Federation € 27,90***
Asia € 27,90***

I just had a French seller cancel an item because he could not get it shipped to the US other than via DHL which would cost $80. Nope. We will try again once all this weirdness settles down - if it ever does.

There has always been duties and now add on a tariff. Anyone know the exact amount? And does the carrier matter?

I ordered a pair of shoes from England. $260 plus $25 shipping. Their website explicitly says, "All Duties Paid by Grenson" I get a notice from DHL wanting $109.31 or they ship it back. Fine by me. I'll get my money back either from Grenson or my CC company when a do a dispute for lack of delivery.

I also have a packaged from China coming next week via FedEx. A 3D printing service. They literally lie on BOL and usually put a value of $60. I paid around $250. We'll see what happens.

But from my inquiry above, I would like to know an amount I would get charged because as many of you know buying off-topic bike parts from Europe can be cheaper as they remove the VAT. I'd like to purchase some Deda Elementi fork and handlebars and a Selle San Marco saddle. The difference from an Italian seller, Gambacicli and a US seller is around $400-$500. The order from Gambacicli is around $1000. I can split in two shipments so both are under $800. To ship 2 instead of 1 is an extra $15, so not a lot.

But back to my original question. On the $1000, what would I get charged? And it would come via FedEx. Previously, the only time I have ever been charged duties, prior to this tariff thing, was through DHL coming from Europe. I got hit for something on a $600 Cinellli frame and on a $250 wheelset. I don't remember the exact amount as it it was over a decade ago. So I have avoided DHL since.

wanting a definitive answer is reasonable. we are not in reasonable times.
the big international shippers will not risk, add in their customs brokerage fees and costs go wild. the below "$800" loophole is dead for now. the current admin is pushing for the foreign postal services to collect the USA tariffs. hence why so many have suspended shipping to the USA. It might rationalize in the future, might.
tariffs on Swiss watches to the USA right now? 39%.
a recent Mazda car advert comes to mind, current inventory not subject to additional tariffs.

Some of these "overseas" bike sites have US warehouses. I think LordGun has a US warehouse. I'm pretty certain Gambacicli does not. Do you know of others?

I don't buy enough to know.
Even with a US warehouse, that will become depleted, then the new shipments will be hit. Yes, the customs costs will be subject to lower "retail" overhead handling but will still be applied. Going to be an expensive interval. The used bike and parts market will shrink a large amount.
Would not be of acceptable cost to import those occasional frame sets as you have done in the past. The way of things.

I still have three items ordered months ago that never arrived. Refunds were received and that's great, but now the price for the same items have increased significantly. It will be interesting to see how the most recent court decisions play out. So much ham-fisted chaos.

Placed an order with LordGun on 8/30. Shipping from Italy was the same rate as US domestic shipping from V-O (and many others). Added a $3.59 "payment fee" but no sign of extras (e.g., tariffs). UPS says it'll arrive tomorrow, 9/3.

reads hopeful.

Keep us apprized. It was DHL shaking me down, not the vendor. We'll see what UPS does.

I may be the canary in the coal mine for this one. I have a package coming from the UK via UPS. It arrived in the US on 8/28, but was subsequently listed as “stored in warehouse” (?) until today, 9/2 when it was released by customs. I have no idea if my package was ahead of the de minimus expiration or not.

I have resisted ordering anything for the last three months. The tariffs on my products for golf repair is currently at 60% which almost doubles the cost of products to the ultimate end user. I can't wait for this bad experiment to end! Smiles, MH

Sad update. UPS sent me an invoice this morning with a $35.50 fee for a $87.54 order. As shown below, that’s for “government charges” and “brokerage fees.” Feels like a shakedown to me. Will be buying domestically for the foreseeable future.

OOF - sorry to hear that. I'll be ordering from existing stock in US warehouses for now. I worry that once that stock is depleted, there's going to a lot of uncertainty and a lot of small business struggling to balance raising prices vs. sales volume.

sounds like good times for folks in the US selling bike stuff domestically! no more competition from across the pond(s). or north and south of the border. time to clean out my parts bin and get stuff listed for sale!

Last week a package of laser cut fork crown plates (to make twin plate forks for transportation frames) was shipped by mail from central Ukraine. This package has arrived in the US and is now awaiting customs clearance. I'll be curious how fast this takes and if I have to pay any import duties.

Back in the 1990's cheap bicycle parts from overseas killed my ability to sell bicycle components for my custom frames. Customers could buy them cheaper online than what I could buy them wholesale. This reduced my income. Now I am on the other side of this issue trying to sell my made in Ukraine fixtures to Americans.

I think I am going to disagree a bit here. When replacement items become non existent because of Chinese centric tariffs, bike shops are going to struggle. They don’t make money on bike sales but on repairs. Distributors will pass costs onto us (businesses do not pay taxes or tariffs. Ever)

Plus, I bet most CV stuff gets bought domestically already.

You could be right and me wrong though.

I got hit for about 75$ on a Redclover triplizer ring, USPS going north, Canadian response to US tarrifs.
Stuff from the UK still arrives (up here) no extra charge.

Bertin head badge I purchased from a French seller loitered in their postal system until well after the shipping stop and I thought it was a casualty, but unexpectedly it arrived yesterday. Envelope had no customs markings so it may have been treated as normal or gift postage - well, a head badge doesn't take up much room at all. As noted earlier, one sale got canceled due to the nonsense and I still have a pre-25th buy from France worming it's way in this direction - the seller equivocated on how he would send it but I suspect he may have gone the 'gift' route, I didn't ask. I'll have to hold on any further transactions with the Continent for the time being, sellers shipping as gifts is a recipe for problems in the long run and delays and failures are bound to be a given.

We live in interesting times...

i just rec'd a colnago panto'd chainring from hungary. the seller listed it as a gift, less than $25. i told him to be careful doing that, as he may run a big risk, but he said he needs to survive his business, so didn't seem concerned. greg softley told me lots of sellers over his way are worried and facing hard times or ruin.

Hopefully the Japanese and East Asian markets remain strong for them (AU/NZ), but my guess is those are their suppliers not
consumers.

Eastern European sellers are likely to be pummeled by this. At a time they can ill afford to be.

maybe order from russia... willing to bet there are no tariffs for them!