Let’s just focus on keeping the rust off of old bikes and leave the paranoia for Sunday night dinners.

It was tongue in cheek. I thought I should tell you because of your complete lack of a sense of humor.

Back to the topic. I've seen this the last couple days on all ferrin ebay sites.
"In conformità con la normativa statunitense, le tariffe di importazione relative a questo oggetto dovranno essere pagate alla dogana o al corriere al momento della consegna. Scopri di più."

Translating to,
In accordance with US regulations, import duties on this item must be paid to customs or the carrier upon delivery. Learn more.

I expect the implementation of the collection will be haphazard for quite some time then the steel door will close.

Nah. Shippers, DHL, UPS, FedEx. USPS, et al are on the hook for collection. The privates just do it online. You actually have to go to the post office and pay, they will probably get to online someday.

Now, what you get charged is anyone's guess. DHL was trying to squeeze 42% from me. I thought tariffs from England were 15%. Who knows.

handling and brokerage fees probably.
good luck finding a schedule.

items being sent through the postal services may or may not be treated uniformly.

Postal traffic to US falls off a cliff
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...fic-us-plunges

Last night I ordered a pair of chainrings from Rarewaves.com, a UK seller. Shipping was free. The twist is that I ordered them through Walmart.com. It’s a marketplace like Amazon where third party sellers fulfill orders. Walmart’s website insists that consumers will not pay any tariffs or import duties. I guess I will see what happens…

Edit - I was also planning to order parts from Japan via Blue Lug. At first I thought I’d pay a 15% tariff, but before hitting the “buy button” I did some research on what people have been charged for small consumer packages from Japan to the USA in the last week. Reports were anywhere from 40-50%. Apparently shipping companies are tacking on many more fees than just the tariffs. Import brokerage, etc, to the point where you can’t calculate what it will be and there doesn’t seem to be a cap on what you could get slapped with.

Large corporations are in general always ready to exploit a crisis...

In the end, this all goes back to the Trump administration's crazy tariff "implementation." As pointed out elsewhere—either in this thread or a similar one on the Paceline—in normal cases trade negotiations take a good while to complete (years?), and involve lots of negotiations by experts at that sort of thing, back and forth, back and forth. Once all I's have been dotted and the T's have been crossed, the bigwigs (chief trade envoys, prime ministers, presidents, whatever) get together to sign agreements and have a nice photo-op. Everybody knows what's going on at the end and those involved downstream know what they need to do. No matter your opinion on the merits of this trade war, it's pretty clear there wasn't enough thought or time put into the nitty gritty of the process. As a result, we don't know what the tariffs are in many instances and don't know who will collect them.

Interesting collection of product categories...

Just spent a few hours scouring the web for a source of leather cycling shoes (more Oxford-like, less perforated Detto-like) and it appears there is no one in the US importing these and a few places overseas aren't shipping to the US right now. Awaiting an answer from 2Velo about shipping to the US. Too bad my feet are generally "average" size about a 43-44 because there is no shortage of options in the 36-40 range out there on the used market. Having a cobbler modify a pair of cap toe dress shoes locally is going to put me well in the range of the cost of a brand new pair of real cycling shoes. Just can't win in this climate.
Phil

It would mean that that money - some part of it - stays in your local community.
A lot of places don't have such a skilled tradespeson, they are worth supporting.
Sometimes climate is what you make of it.

Not sure if it is exploitation or just them not knowing how to efficiently collect an ill-devised system of moving target tariffs and duties. Shipping companies CANNOT afford to short charge.

Moving target is right. There's already a threat to increase tariffs on Europe over their fining of one company, Google, for anti-competitive practices. Everything happening right now is capricious and impossible to adapt to quickly. Regardless of one's leanings that's just the reality. I'm keeping in touch with my contacts but for now everything's on hold, the things I need cannot be sourced domestically. Period.

If you end up modifying them yourself somehow (is there a video showing how it's done?), just wondering who here had dress shoes on their "What have you been wrenching on lately" bingo card?

Update: I just heard back from 2Velo, and they stated they are not taking any orders from the US right now.
Phil

no good, no good.

news reports today note that after 8/29 mail and small parcel shipments to the USA plunged 80%

Today I received a package from my 3D printer in China. $300 in parts. Not a nickel in tariffs. I should get another package from Alibaba later this week. I'm guessing zero again.

very good, assessed valuation- who would want these?!? send 'em through.

I do suspect the implementation will be haphazard for a time

I think there was nothing haphazard about it. It is in the interest of the Chinese government to pay for this. A little cash upfront during the chaos until a new version of the transpacific partnership is signed. Nothing new to see here.

Back on topic, the parts are internal lugs for a new build.

Capricious is right. There is no plan other than disruption of normal trade; as Webster defines it, "governed or characterized by caprice : impulsive, unpredictable".
Dale

the return of the Masi Volumetrica Concept ?

A variation of the theme.

Where on their website does it say that consumers are not paying tariffs? All I could find was that you need to contact customer service if a tariff is assessed on your item (https://www.walmart.com/help/article...6e139c3116ccd3). It would be great if I can get Michelin tires through Walmart's website via Rarewaves. I'd try that if somehow Walmart is covering the tariff cost and it's cheaper than eBay at this point.

That's the same page I saw. I guess what it's saying is not to pay fees to sellers. I suppose the shipping company could still assess fees. Maybe I should just cancel the order now before it shows up from UPS or DHL with some huge fee tacked on.

Hmm, unless you're lucky given the current circumstances I think that should be rephrased as "will still assess fees..."