Talk me out of it...
#27
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Bikes: 1970 Gitane TDF; 1985 Norco Magnum GT ; 2013 Rawland Stag ; 1981 Fuji 650b; 2004 Kona Caldera; 1976 Apollo MK V
I did the same thing, had a few parts including wheels that needed to go somewhere so another frame was the obvious answer. I admit the rarity and colour got the best of me in this case but now I have one more I can add to what was already more than enough ( 5 bikes ). You know the usual thought: there are worse things one could be doing.
Besides, you might be the only one around with one and that adds a certain amount of pride in ownership, in a good way.
Besides, you might be the only one around with one and that adds a certain amount of pride in ownership, in a good way.
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I did the same thing, had a few parts including wheels that needed to go somewhere so another frame was the obvious answer. I admit the rarity and colour got the best of me in this case but now I have one more I can add to what was already more than enough ( 5 bikes ). You know the usual thought: there are worse things one could be doing.
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#31
Don't buy without knowing the height of the canti bosses. Lots of Japanese touring bikes were made for 650A, a historical size that's not so common anymore.
There are probably ways to hack together some brakes that'll work with a more common wheel size like 650B, but braking may be suboptimal
There are probably ways to hack together some brakes that'll work with a more common wheel size like 650B, but braking may be suboptimal
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Don't buy without knowing the height of the canti bosses. Lots of Japanese touring bikes were made for 650A, a historical size that's not so common anymore.
There are probably ways to hack together some brakes that'll work with a more common wheel size like 650B, but braking may be suboptimal
There are probably ways to hack together some brakes that'll work with a more common wheel size like 650B, but braking may be suboptimal
#36
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This frame just came up for sale, it's a Japanese Pegasus randonneur bike. Pegasus are a pretty well known maker of high-end bikes, this one features internal cable routing, a pump mount, and braze-ons on the chain stay for spare spokes. I need another bike like I need another bout with COVID, but I have already have most of the parts to make it a complete bike.


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So? Have you bought it yet?
#38
I've made an offer, if it is accepted, hopefully I'll have the frame in a few days.
Should I get it, I'll build it up period correct. I have a new Sugino triple crankset, some new, old stock Royal Gran Compe levers, Suntour Le Tech derailleurs, a Gran Compe stem, a shiny new, gold Suntour Perfect freewheel, and a new, old stock Nitto Grand Randonneur bar. The frame is sized for 700c wheels, no problem finding those.
Should I get it, I'll build it up period correct. I have a new Sugino triple crankset, some new, old stock Royal Gran Compe levers, Suntour Le Tech derailleurs, a Gran Compe stem, a shiny new, gold Suntour Perfect freewheel, and a new, old stock Nitto Grand Randonneur bar. The frame is sized for 700c wheels, no problem finding those.
#39
I've made an offer, if it is accepted, hopefully I'll have the frame in a few days.
Should I get it, I'll build it up period correct. I have a new Sugino triple crankset, some new, old stock Royal Gran Compe levers, Suntour Le Tech derailleurs, a Gran Compe stem, a shiny new, gold Suntour Perfect freewheel, and a new, old stock Nitto Grand Randonneur bar. The frame is sized for 700c wheels, no problem finding those.
Should I get it, I'll build it up period correct. I have a new Sugino triple crankset, some new, old stock Royal Gran Compe levers, Suntour Le Tech derailleurs, a Gran Compe stem, a shiny new, gold Suntour Perfect freewheel, and a new, old stock Nitto Grand Randonneur bar. The frame is sized for 700c wheels, no problem finding those.
#40
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From: South Holland, NL
Bikes: Yes, please.

There's at least a dozen members now wringing their hands.
#44
So far, so good. The frame has some minor scratches and wear, but I should be able to clean it up well enough. The yellow stickers say "Jingane" and "Cr.Mo Butted Tubes." I'll put it together with black-and-silver parts. The Gran Compe levers are black anodized, I also have some Gran Compe black cantilevers, a Nitto Technomic stem in black, and some black edition, large flange Dura Ace 36h hubs. Derailleurs are the Suntour Le Tech I mentioned earlier. Otherwise I'll put on a set of black and silver Cyclone derailleurs to match the other parts. It should take me about a month to get it all together. I hope.

From what I can find out about maker, they began making bicycles in 1906. They were established in Chofu, which is a suburb in western Tokyo, and 4 generations of makers have been producing bikes there. The other examples of these bikes I have been able to track down are usually lug-framed, always made of Reynolds 531 steel. The company produced custom made bikes for a number of customers, the most famous of which is Haruka Takachiho, one of Japan's top science fiction writers. He also wrote a couple of novels about cycling, as well as a cycling manga series.

From what I can find out about maker, they began making bicycles in 1906. They were established in Chofu, which is a suburb in western Tokyo, and 4 generations of makers have been producing bikes there. The other examples of these bikes I have been able to track down are usually lug-framed, always made of Reynolds 531 steel. The company produced custom made bikes for a number of customers, the most famous of which is Haruka Takachiho, one of Japan's top science fiction writers. He also wrote a couple of novels about cycling, as well as a cycling manga series.
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#45
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That looks promising!
I like how the Japanese took the French cyclotourisme concept and ran with it.

Toei 1969
I like how the Japanese took the French cyclotourisme concept and ran with it.

Toei 1969
#46
Japan is a wonderful country for cycle tourism. The terrain varies from Alpine to sub-tropical, from dense forests and endless coastlines to white sandy beaches. The roads are well maintained, and quite safe for cycling.
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#48
NHK/PBS present a show "Cycle Around Japan (Highlights)"
Weekly on my PBS station, and a bunch here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...e+Around+Japan
Weekly on my PBS station, and a bunch here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...e+Around+Japan
#49
My lack of Japanese hasn't much held me back. You only need a few words to get around in Japan. "Good day," "excuse me," "I'm sorry," "thank you," and "how much?" With just these words, Japanese will gush "Nihon-go jouzu desu ne..." (Your Japanese is very good.)
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