Helicomatic hub/axle issue
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Helicomatic hub/axle issue
Hi I have a 1984 Trek 560 that I am “refreshing.” There seems to be something inside the hole through the axle preventing me from inserting the quick release skewer through it. When I took the bike apart several years ago I removed the skewer from the wheel so I know it was clean at some point. I recently remove the axle from the hub to clean and grease the bearings. I didn’t see any cracks in the axle suggesting it might be broken.
i have tried to insert a screwdriver into the axle hole to remove the obstruction. It moved partway but then became “.stuck” and wouldn’t move further with tapping from a rubber mallet.
Questions:
1. Whatever is stuck in there is lodged pretty well. I soaked with penetrating oil and no luck. Could i attempt to use an electric drill to drill out whatever is stuck in there?
2. If I can’t remove it i will need to buy a new axle. The nuts, washers and cones can be transferred to the new axle. However where can I find a French threaded rear axle that might fit? I want to use the existing cones because the hub uses 5/32 bearings and most replacement helicomatic axles use 1/4 bearings. So I would like to just buy a French threaded axle. Do you know where I could find one?
Thanks everyone!
i have tried to insert a screwdriver into the axle hole to remove the obstruction. It moved partway but then became “.stuck” and wouldn’t move further with tapping from a rubber mallet.
Questions:
1. Whatever is stuck in there is lodged pretty well. I soaked with penetrating oil and no luck. Could i attempt to use an electric drill to drill out whatever is stuck in there?
2. If I can’t remove it i will need to buy a new axle. The nuts, washers and cones can be transferred to the new axle. However where can I find a French threaded rear axle that might fit? I want to use the existing cones because the hub uses 5/32 bearings and most replacement helicomatic axles use 1/4 bearings. So I would like to just buy a French threaded axle. Do you know where I could find one?
Thanks everyone!
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I've got a few helicomatics, and none of them use 1/4 inch bearings. The early rear hubs all use the 5/32 bearings. The fronts use 3/16. The later 700 pro rear hubs use 3/16 as well and have improved cones and labrynth seals.
You will hear that the older rear hubs are junk and not to bother with them.
You will hear that the older rear hubs are junk and not to bother with them.
Last edited by daverup; 04-09-26 at 06:25 PM.
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I believe that the 5/32 bearings in the helicomatics hubs should be grade 25 or better.
If you find damage to the cones, replace them. More frequent servicing of these hubs is a good idea. It doesn't take much grit to chew up a cone.
If you find damage to the cones, replace them. More frequent servicing of these hubs is a good idea. It doesn't take much grit to chew up a cone.
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Is the skewer straight? A bent skewer might not go through the axle unless pushed hard.
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Maybe a mud dauber nest in there?
A drill will show you what's in there, or maybe just different diameter rods, might get one to break through.
The WD40 would prevent the mud from being softened with water.
A drill will show you what's in there, or maybe just different diameter rods, might get one to break through.
The WD40 would prevent the mud from being softened with water.





