broomhandle

does anybody know the differences between campy componets? there are no markings on anything, or is there?

i have some brakes and cranks that i can not indentify. ill post some pictures.... i belive i have mid/late 80's

number6

Show some images, brakes have a number of "period" identifiers, the Cranks have codes from the 70's onward prior and later also have some characteristics beyond the date codes.

As an example:
Brakes, no identification on the alloy arms, 1968
Sans Serif text flat quick releases 1969 to 1977
(some minor differences in the levers)
"Spoon" quick releases, from 1978
Later 80's arms changed shape, with Campagnolo in "script"
(some other differences as well to the cable fixing nut, block holders, pivot nuts....

broomhandle

here are some pictures...

brakes and crank...

i was told the crank is a record. and i know the chours and the record look the same. i read the record has a darker logo.

beats me.... anybody know???

luker

The first picture is of a pre '78 campy record brake caliper (flat quick release lever), non-standard pads - the second is of a first-generation Chorus crank (if the finish is shiny...) from about '87 to maybe '92. The front derailleur is a second type super record, post '78 until the late '80s. What little of the pedal that I can see appears to be a campy super leggera, matches the vintage of the front derailleur, I think.

All nice stuff...

broomhandle

i have the original pad holders but im missing one. i have 3, so shimano pads will do. the crank is more a dull finish. the pedals, front,rear derailer are all origianl i belive. its a 1970 Raleigh International. i thought they were all record.

so for this year crank what is the difference between the chorus and record?

and how can you tell with the pedals? i have this shinny pair, and i have a black pair. i wish there was a campy indentification site. with pictures and all... haha

broomhandle

more pictures....

luker

I apologize. Those are the older record pedals complete with strap loop, not super leggera. The strap loop makes them much more collectible. The shifters are the earlier standard campy friction shifters. Nice alloy ofmega headset.

Top of the line for the vintage of the crank was the c record. all of the newer record cranks, from 87 on, have only four distinct arms on the spider. The crank itself makes up the fifth arm, and the record rings have the little peg in a slightly different position.

Looks pretty clearly like that crank is a later addition. Loop straps, flat quick release levers, early shift levers. All of those things say 197x. Equipped like it is, the chances are that the stem and bar is cinelli - what does the logo on the top of the handlebar stem look like?

The bike has nervex lugs, so it could be several different things, but it kinda reminds me of a 70's vintage Paramount. Do you know what it is?

broomhandle

yeah, 1970 Raleigh International. the guy before upgraded the brakes and crank, he said its a record crank. how can you tell from a chorus and a record, or super record?

number6

Campagnolo used Record for decades, so many styles are Record. Most folk call the first styles Nuovo Record, which is not correct but widely used. they have machined tapered flutes in the crank arms and spider arms, five arms. Super Record used the Record crank with a special BB and chainrings that had the webbing removed. Very late Super Record arms have no flutes on the arms and are decorated in a way similar to yours but used the basic Record shape. Record C, (Corsa) came after, more organic and flowing in shape, four arms visible as noted earlier. There are some other minor changes but very esoteric.

There is one thing one should be aware of, the original bolt hole circle was 151mm (44 teeth min), identified by having about 3mm visible between the chainring bolt to the arm, the later 141mm circle (41t min., but very rare, 42 for practical usage), used a bolt that looks as close to the arm as yours. The later cranks such as yours use an even smaller cricle, allowing inner rings under 41 teeth. Creating a study guide would be a lot of work as you can read.

broomhandle

so then what is my crank? a record or a chorus?

this 1991 catalog shows the chorus, record etc... and they look the same....

https://www.campyonly.com/catalogs/1991.html

mine looks more like the record.

number6

Chours, better look closer. Looks pretty conclusive to me.