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RobbieTunes 10-19-09 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by treebound (Post 9885700)
What size is that Diamondback? Just testing my eye-gauge, guess a 58-60.

I need to post my current two before one goes away.

Actually reads "23 inch" and in parentheses, says "(58.5cm). I was feeling big that day. Actually, I was seduced by the triple RSX 7-sp group.

RobbieTunes 10-19-09 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by theguyfromplt (Post 9886643)
To JunkYardBike:

It IS Snazzy!

Judging by the components, what year would you all say this is? It has Shimano SIS Light Action shifters (plastic), and Sugino VP crankset. Also has Shimano aluminum brakes. It is marked "Made in Taiwan" - I know its prob mid to late '80s... I love those colors!

Peace!!
-theguy

My guess, by the paint color, is 1987-1989.
Taiwan? 1988 or 1989, I'd say.

T-Mar 10-20-09 06:45 AM

Light Action is 1986-1988. This bicycle is 1987 or 1988.

T-Mar 10-20-09 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 9884800)
1991 or 1992 maybe, Diamondback as Centurion left the scene. Unusual group for me to see, a 3x7 RSX triple, with a much more compact crankset than I've seen before. I sold it about a year ago, gave him a buy-back guarantee if he upgraded. He did, so I bought it back. I've got some work to do: smaller stem, bars rolled forward and set for riding the drops, lighter saddle, but it should be fine.


It's much newer than that. RSX didn't even debut until 1995. There a little too much glare in the one pic. Diamonback since 19?3? What's the model? Master? Podium?

EddyR 10-20-09 08:13 AM

Robbie I had two of those Diamondback Experts and they were built quite a bit different than the Centurion bikes,no better no worse. 60 cm weighted about 22 lbs. I used the STI parts on a Cannondale upgrade. Wish I had another one as I need the 7 speed STI shifters.
Ed

treebound 10-20-09 09:01 AM

I don't think I put this one in this thread yet, from:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...turion+ironman

Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Expert model
S/N N7B5199 (if I read it right)

I'll get the other one I still have added here soon.

RobbieTunes 10-20-09 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 9890390)
It's much newer than that. RSX didn't even debut until 1995. There a little too much glare in the one pic. Diamonback since 19?3? What's the model? Master? Podium?

Wow, newest bike I have other than plastic! The decal says Diamondback, since 1978, sorry about the pic glare. This is a Diamondback Expert. It's not that heavy, would be a lot lighter without the 7-sp cassette that seems to be cast iron.

EddyR,
I like the 7-sp STI's, too. Just seemed to be a good combo. The frame, at 58.5, is on my outer limits, but I'd love to put that group on a 56cm Ironman, for rides up in the hills.

treebound 10-20-09 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 9891836)
EddyR,
I like the 7-sp STI's, too. Just seemed to be a good combo. The frame, at 58.5, is on my outer limits, but I'd love to put that group on a 56cm Ironman, for rides up in the hills.

That was my thinking when I saw the pic of that triple. I recently picked up a repainted Ironman locally, in my size this time (or close enough). I'm thinking of setting up a roadie'd mountain goat bike for some hilly rides I hope to do over the next couple of years.

T-Mar 10-20-09 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 9891836)
Wow, newest bike I have other than plastic! The decal says Diamondback, since 1978, sorry about the pic glare. This is a Diamondback Expert. It's not that heavy, would be a lot lighter without the 7-sp cassette that seems to be cast iron...

An Expert would appear to make it even newer. I don't have the 1995 product list, but it's not in 1996. It appears in 1997 as an RSX equipped model.

RobbieTunes 10-20-09 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 9893468)
An Expert would appear to make it even newer. I don't have the 1995 product list, but it's not in 1996. It appears in 1997 as an RSX equipped model.

I may have to sell it just to stay C&V....

T-Mar 10-20-09 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 9893518)
I may have to sell it just to stay C&V....

I dunno, this one seems to keep finding its way back. Maybe it's a sign that you're supposed to sell off your C&V.

RobbieTunes 10-20-09 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 9893576)
I dunno, this one seems to keep finding its way back. Maybe it's a sign that you're supposed to sell off your C&V.

Maybe it's my magnetic personality.

T-Mar 10-20-09 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 9893684)
Maybe it's my magnetic personality.

Maybe it's just looking for a lug. :roflmao2: No offence intended Robbie, but I couldn't resist.

RobbieTunes 10-20-09 04:43 PM

I should know better than to mess with the master....

T-Mar 10-21-09 07:08 AM

Robbie, just to make it up to you, I've posted another addition to your Terry-design C&V thread.

rough2005 10-21-09 08:42 PM

T-Mar and Robbie, I'm just a newbie that happens to have a DiamondBack and a Centurion LeMans and I feel I wanted to contribute too to your data base. I will post a pictures tomorrow with the serial numbers, I wanted to know what year it was made just like the other members.

Jocache83 10-22-09 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Jocache83 (Post 8492200)
Sup guys, just got a centurion le mans for $20 at a garage sale.. Here are the pics of the bike. Does anyone know what year this was built? i'm guessing 86' 87'???, and is the head set 1" or 1 1/8th"? just want to ask and confirm

Thanks all

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...3/P1000273.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...3/P1000276.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...3/P1000275.jpg

The Before pics above... and now the After pics below... hopw you guys like.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/P1040367.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/P1040369.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/P1040370.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/P1040375.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...e/P1040371.jpg

T-Mar 10-23-09 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Jocache83 (Post 9907532)
The Before pics above... and now the After pics below... hopw you guys like.

Can I ask why you had it repainted? Most people love the Centurion smoke paint schemes and yours appeared to be in good condition. BTW, could you please post the serial number. It's not legible in the pic. TIA.

txvintage 10-23-09 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 9910641)
Can I ask why you had it repainted? Most people love the Centurion smoke paint schemes and yours appeared to be in good condition. BTW, could you please post the serial number. It's not legible in the pic. TIA.

And it was the Purple Fade. I will one day have a Purple Fade, just not today.

Jocache83 10-23-09 09:25 AM

LoL, i didnt like the purple fade.. ill post the serial # later

RobbieTunes 10-23-09 04:40 PM

Well, it was likely either an '88 or '89. The 88 Ironman had that paint, and I think it was on the Lemans in '89. I've had both the Lemans and the Lemans RS in that paint scheme, and the Ironman.

txvintage, we'll find you one. Red/white one is boxed and ready. I was just too dirty after packing it to go to the post office. Plus, the counter lady owns that "immaculate" Raleigh. I think she was counting on me to roll out 400 and buy it. I'm thinking 40 was a little high, truthfully....

I should be looking at an Ironman tomorrow, 54 or 52. The hubby bought it about 20 years ago when he was single and dating lots of different women, wanted a bike for a woman in case he met one that wanted to ride....His wife told me "get it out of here." I gotta hear the story behind that.

T-Mar 10-23-09 05:48 PM

OK guys, we've hit the magic 1000 posts. Thank-you to all contributors, in particular Robbie Tunes and A. Winthrop. :thumb:

To date, their are 234 Centurion bicycles in the database. The majority (103) are N-codes from 1980-1989, so I think we've got enough statistical data to state definitively that the N-code has been cracked, though there is no clear indication as to when Centurion starts the model year within a calendar year. In fact, it appears to vary from year to year and even possibly from model to model. I suspect it all depends on sales and the availability of the parts for the new model year.

The next largest category are the late 1970's M-codes with 17, followed by the late 1980's, Taiwanese F-codes with 11.

In 4th spot is the code that looks like and M or N-code but without the leading alpha character. This codes are restricted to 1984, to it appears WSI had a supply issue that year. I had read that these frames came from Tange, but have been unable to confirm it. Curiously, they match the Panasonic serial number format.

Beyond that there are over a dozen other, apparently distinct formats, indicating that WSI outsourced the brand to numerous contractors. It's unclear whether he was looking for better prices or had quality control concerns.

RobbieTunes 10-23-09 07:25 PM

Glad it was you on the 1K.

michael k 10-23-09 10:26 PM

I'll add one more.:)

Serial #-IFxxxxx
Model - ????
Headbadge-Cross or North star?
Color - Red with white stickers "Centurion" "made in japan"
RD -Suntour seven
FD -Suntour spirt
Cranks -SR with red bolt covers
Wheels -Steel Araya,Hub style resembles my Old Rafael Geminiani
Seat post- 26.0
Weight - Heavy as a lead brick! :injured:

txvintage 10-24-09 06:43 AM

All of the ones I have seen that are Master's have been 88's.


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 9913863)
Well, it was likely either an '88 or '89. The 88 Ironman had that paint, and I think it was on the Lemans in '89. I've had both the Lemans and the Lemans RS in that paint scheme, and the Ironman.

txvintage, we'll find you one. Red/white one is boxed and ready. I was just too dirty after packing it to go to the post office. Plus, the counter lady owns that "immaculate" Raleigh. I think she was counting on me to roll out 400 and buy it. I'm thinking 40 was a little high, truthfully....

Well, I have a one owner Purple Master with my name on it. The owner is the original owner and offered it to me last year, but he still has some attachment to it and I can't bring myself to take him up on his offer yet. It needs an over haul and a "brightening up". I think I need to get with his wife an arrainge a bike napping and get it back to riding condition so we can get him off that Plastic Trek he rides around on now:D

I have all the needed pieces in place to get that Red and White beauty on the road in short order. Of course, the spousal unit's neighborhood watch committee may try to keep me off it for a while until the doc releases me.:innocent:

I should be looking at an Ironman tomorrow, 54 or 52. The hubby bought it about 20 years ago when he was single and dating lots of different women, wanted a bike for a woman in case he met one that wanted to ride....His wife told me "get it out of here." I gotta hear the story behind that.

You might wanna with hold the buy back plan on this one. Just sayin'




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