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EddyR 08-25-09 02:15 PM

Robbie I bet they are 700's My 7/11 Ironman has Mavic 4 c's with arrow spokes. I do not know if they are original. Looks like original whitewall tires and not much scratching on the rims from the brakes.
Ed

T-Mar 08-25-09 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by EddyR (Post 9555325)
Robbie I bet they are 700's My 7/11 Ironman has Mavic 4 c's with arrow spokes. I do not know if they are original. Looks like original whitewall tires and not much scratching on the rims from the brakes.
Ed

OEM rims for the 1987 Ironman Expert were Wolber Alpines.

The Craigslist LeMans would have orignally been 700C Araya rims.

RobbieTunes 08-25-09 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 9556849)
OEM rims for the 1987 Ironman Expert were Wolber Alpines.

The Craigslist LeMans would have orignally been 700C Araya rims.

Yep, I had two of those LeMans bikes, had the 700c older style Arayas on both.

I definitely know no Mavics came on any Centurions that I know of, even the Italian job (Fiammes).
There must have been a ton of wheelsets made with the Mavic Open 4 CD's and such. Nice rims.

I may email the guy and see what's up. Hoods look good, etc. Make a nice cheap road bike with Sora STI's and the 7-sp Light Action group....

T-Mar 08-25-09 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 9557041)
...I definitely know no Mavics came on any Centurions that I know of, even the Italian job (Fiammes)...

The 1985 Centurion Prestige came with Mavic GP4. This is the only Mavic shod Centurion I've come across in all the models I've been able to log. It's appears to be an oddball, like the Fiamme rimmed, 1985 Centurion Cinelli Equipe.

EddyR 08-25-09 09:07 PM

T-Mar My 1987 pink and yellow 60CM Dave Scott/ Ironman had Wolber Super Champion rims on it. The bike had never been riden when I got it in 2007. I just checked the add and a different bike is coming up from the same guy.Ugly looking spray can job.
Ed

T-Mar 08-26-09 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by EddyR (Post 9557740)
T-Mar My 1987 pink and yellow 60CM Dave Scott/ Ironman had Wolber Super Champion rims on it. The bike had never been riden when I got it in 2007. I just checked the add and a different bike is coming up from the same guy.Ugly looking spray can job.
Ed

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Super Champion is not the model name. It's part of the brand name. I'd have to double check to make sure but I believe that they were separarte companies that merged.

RobbieTunes 08-26-09 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 9557205)
The 1985 Centurion Prestige came with Mavic GP4. This is the only Mavic shod Centurion I've come across in all the models I've been able to log. It's appears to be an oddball, like the Fiamme rimmed, 1985 Centurion Cinelli Equipe.

That makes sense, as my Prestige came frame-only, and he had the wheels. He parted out the bike for pretty good chunk of change.

That same Prestige is on eBay right now...

JunkYardBike 08-26-09 09:36 AM

Another S/N to add. This is an '87 LeMans RS. 64cm st ctt. S/N: N7H5477.

All original except for the consumables, the pedals and the saddle (pretty snazzy, eh?).

As I got it:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21...eMans_0001.jpg

Refurbished:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21...eMans_0023.jpg

theguyfromplt 09-06-09 07:58 PM

New kid on the block here! I need a date of manufacture!
 
I have been given a Centurion LeMans 12 (labeled Tange No. 5)

Here is the serial: n2p9120 (What year??)

It has a Sugino forged crank, Dia Compe AC 500 side pull brakes, 27" wheels and road tires, a Sakae drop handlebar (made in Japan), and Sun Tour "Power Shifters" on the stem. It's gold (and rust, if you like two tone lol).

Any help provided would be most appreciated!

-TheGuyFromPLT

Here's the photos:
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0057.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0058.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0059.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0060.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0061.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0062.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0063.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0064.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0065.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0066.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y...t/SP_A0067.jpg

minority 10-04-09 01:32 AM

I have a feeling this might be a Centurion, but which one? Only the post and BB came with the frame, forks, headset, wheels etc, were just lying around in the stockpile.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...enturion-2.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e..._01/BBLugs.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...rity_01/BB.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...rakebridge.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...1/Headlugs.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e.../Seatclamp.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...1/Seatlugs.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...ardropouts.jpg

Braze-ons for dt shifters, two sets of water bottle bidons, brake cable gudes (3) on top tube, seatpost is 26.8 I think (haven't taken it out yet.

Any ideas?

T-Mar 10-04-09 06:10 AM

Given the condition of the bottom bracket shell, does it really matter?

minority 10-04-09 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 9794495)
Given the condition of the bottom bracket shell, does it really matter?

I think the bottom bracket shell is fine. I think what you are refering to in the pics (at least I hope it's what you'r referring to :eek:), is where the cable for the computer was siliconed onto the frame (around the bottom bracket), rather than use the usual tie wraps.

T-Mar 10-04-09 08:57 AM

OK, I see what you're talking about. Whew!

It's certainly from the Centurion manufacturer of the era. The serial number is in that gray region where it could be 1984 or 1985. Currently I'm leaning towards the latter. Most of the upper 1984 models had different stay caps and the mid-range models tended to have top mount shifters. Are there any bottle bosses and id so, how many sets?

Loose Chain 10-04-09 02:03 PM

My wife's Centurion Dave Scott Ironman:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/PA040110.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/PA040112.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/PA040111.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/PA040109.jpg

There are only two current 24 inch tires for these bikes, the Schwalbe Durano 24X.90 ( http://www.schwalbetires.com/node/2118 ) and the Panaracer 24X1.0 Pasela. These are 520 bead hook tires. The Pasela is currently installed on the front of this bike. It is a beautiful bike made with quality in the country of Japan of cro mo tubing.

LC
America the Beautiful

Loose Chain 10-04-09 02:06 PM

A few more:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/PA040103.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/PA040106.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/PA040107.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/PA040113.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/PA040104.jpg

Shimano 105 with the Bio Race front chain sets. Serial number is N7G5615. I seem to have just been given a 56cm Ironman Expert in nice shape also, full Shimano105.

LC
America the Beautiful

minority 10-04-09 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 9795019)
OK, I see what you're talking about. Whew!

It's certainly from the Centurion manufacturer of the era. The serial number is in that gray region where it could be 1984 or 1985. Currently I'm leaning towards the latter. Most of the upper 1984 models had different stay caps and the mid-range models tended to have top mount shifters. Are there any bottle bosses and id so, how many sets?

Double whew!!

Two sets of bottle bosses, normal place on down tube & seat tube

RobbieTunes 10-04-09 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Loose Chain (Post 9796361)
My wife's Centurion Dave Scott Ironman:
There are only two current 24 inch tires for these bikes, the Schwalbe Durano 24X.90 ( http://www.schwalbetires.com/node/2118 ) and the Panaracer 24X1.0 Pasela. These are 520 bead hook tires. The Pasela is currently installed on the front of this bike. It is a beautiful bike made with quality in the country of Japan of cro mo tubing.

LC
America the Beautiful

Beautiful bike. Is this the super-clean one that was on eBay recently a few weeks ago (there's another one on there now). Various manufacturers were allowed, I guess to produce a Terry model, and none of them were low end. Search "Terry" on this site for a recent thread.

Many people have no idea what the 520 front is all about. I found another model of Panaracer tire, too. My version of that bike still has the Panaracer Technova tires (18 wide). It's about to become someone else's, though.

The bike is easily upgradeable to STI shifting if you have the 7-sp rear, and just as easily to 8-sp if you want to toss on a different rear wheel w/cassette.

It's a hard bike to explain, until someone under about 5'3 rides it, and most of them really like it. Great bike.

Loose Chain 10-04-09 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 9797988)
Beautiful bike. Is this the super-clean one that was on eBay recently a few weeks ago (there's another one on there now). Various manufacturers were allowed, I guess to produce a Terry model, and none of them were low end. Search "Terry" on this site for a recent thread.

Many people have no idea what the 520 front is all about. I found another model of Panaracer tire, too. My version of that bike still has the Panaracer Technova tires (18 wide). It's about to become someone else's, though.

The bike is easily upgradeable to STI shifting if you have the 7-sp rear, and just as easily to 8-sp if you want to toss on a different rear wheel w/cassette.

It's a hard bike to explain, until someone under about 5'3 rides it, and most of them really like it. Great bike.

Thank you. No, it did not come from Ebait, it was purchased new for my wife when we lived in Houston. I am the chief mechanic, lol and since I am actually an A&P/IA that explains why the bike is pristine. The original tire which I still have is a 25X1 or 520X25 as indicated on the side wall. The Pasela tire is marked the same size but I agree that it is slightly wider and taller but nonetheless does fine on the little bike. My wife is just shy of 5-4 but like many smaller women, bikes with squished down frames on 700c wheels cause a too long reach even with a short stem installed. I suppose today's slope tube compacts might partly address the overly long reach for small people. When we moved to Phoenix she got a MTB and has since only rarely rode the little pink Centurion.

All of these Centurion bikes seem underrated.

LC
From sea to shining sea.

spymaster 10-05-09 05:15 PM

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Here's my contribution to the late 70s dataset: the saddle is date stamped 1976, so I believe it's a circa 1977 LeMans 23", S/N: JN63076

AFAIK, everything is original down to the bar tape and D.I.D. chain, except for the tires which I've changed, and the aftermarket kickstand which was already installed when I acquired the bike.

Ultralight hi tension tubing
Sugino cranks
Suntour SL FD, VGT Luxe RD, Power shifters
Suntour Perfect 5 speed freewheel
Araya 27 x 1 1/4" chrome rims
Sunshine 5345 hubs
Diacompe center-pulls and turkey wings
SR stem, Sakae Custom handlebars

RobbieTunes 10-09-09 07:01 PM

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OK, the Cinelli Centurion stepchild is finally done, and delivered. I think he likes it just fine.
Tires arrived at 4 pm, he arrived at 5:15, we fit, we talked, we ate, it's gone....

Serial number, like all the Equipe models, is the size "52" 89 Chorus group (thanks, Spinz)
Record hubs/Sun M14A rims, Record headset. bb courtesy of cyclotoine, bars - JunkYardBike,
decals by cyclomondo, paint job by Porkchop Customs...2x7 indexed, Regina America cogs

RobbieTunes 10-11-09 07:11 PM

Somebody save this...
 
Cry me a river.... what a sad day. Some petite beauty is missing her Ironman.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/...c856b35574.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fixie-Project-Ce...item5883bb6456

K8drums 10-13-09 09:12 PM

found a centurion world sport? bike today - really old and crusty
cottered cranks...joy
suntour honor and spirt derailers
super old looking headbadge
pics and serial number to follow
and on a side note - are there similar databases for Nishiki and Atala? (it was a big day)

RobbieTunes 10-19-09 09:55 AM

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1991 or 1992 maybe, Diamondback as Centurion left the scene. Unusual group for me to see, a 3x7 RSX triple, with a much more compact crankset than I've seen before. I sold it about a year ago, gave him a buy-back guarantee if he upgraded. He did, so I bought it back. I've got some work to do: smaller stem, bars rolled forward and set for riding the drops, lighter saddle, but it should be fine.

treebound 10-19-09 12:04 PM

What size is that Diamondback? Just testing my eye-gauge, guess a 58-60.

I need to post my current two before one goes away.

theguyfromplt 10-19-09 02:26 PM

To JunkYardBike:

It IS Snazzy!

My Uncle gave me a Sport DLX JUST like this (same paint scheme) - I will take some snaps of it and get the serial in the database pronto! (So now I have accumulated THREE Tange frames - the LeMans 12, the Sport DLX, and a Fuji Discovery MTB I bought for $10) I love them all, but the Sport DLX seems to fit better for racing, the LeMans 12 is a little longer (better for panniers in my opinion, and then the Fuji is for commuting and tooling around town on)... Pretty bike, dude! (I prefer that "Miami Vice" look!):beer:

Update: OK, I am having problems reading off the serial (thick paint on the BB)... Here is what I think it says: (F?)70509(6?)0

Here are the pics:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2769/...b7bc0340_m.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2786/...8b679355_m.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2712/...c5941c8c_m.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/...84e29c7a_m.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/...64cddf73_m.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2573/...281a009d_m.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2653/...82c73faa_m.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3529/...7182e882_m.jpg

Judging by the components, what year would you all say this is? It has Shimano SIS Light Action shifters (plastic), and Sugino VP crankset. Also has Shimano aluminum brakes. It is marked "Made in Taiwan" - I know its prob mid to late '80s... I love those colors!

Peace!!
-theguy


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