spry

He,s teasing them first,like the nude lady dancing behind the ostrich feathers.

mastershake916

Only ebay rich, yeah that's not rich at all.

Bikedued

tsk tsk tsk.

bigbossman 

What I would be curious to know is if any BF members PM'ed the OP, and whether they got a price quote or were blown off.

Just an educated guess - but my bet is that they don't do well on eBay, or at least as well as our friend would hope. In a hot local bike market, they might bring $150/ea. But eBay seems to only be "hot" for the rare, high end, new, and/or collectible.

These bikes are low-end mediocre build quality and not really collectible. Their only really interesting feature is that they are NOS, and I don't think that will be enough to reap a huge return. Could be wrong, though, as eBay is a funny place. But I just don't see a feeding frenzy here.

Remember the guy in Louisiana with all the NOS Raleigh's that he wanted $200+ for? I'm pretty sure he still has 'em........

mastershake916

So, hammy just alienated the people who would be his biggest market (us), trying to get more money that isn't there.

bigbossman 

Possibly. Don't get me wrong - I don't mind a guy making a buck honestly, and they are his bikes and his deal. eBay might be the way to go to maximize the profit, but I'm just speculating that they would have done better here. But maybe not now?

We'll see in a few days if I'm full of ***** or not.

mastershake916

And if only one is ebayed, I'm fine with that.

Bikedued

Kinda reminds me of the guy who was trying to sell bare Peugeot frames with a starting bid
of $175. It just ain't gonna happen.,,,,BD

JunkYardBike

There will be at least 1 bidder at $125...they are NOS, after all. But I think bigbossman is right, they probably won't command a very high price. But who knows.

I don't begrudge the man his right to make a buck, either. But if his original intention was to list on ebay, it would have been nice for him to be a little more forthcoming. If he only decided to list on ebay after a weak response here, I can't blame him. I know I probably wouldn't have offered more than $100 if I really wanted one. I think C&V is the wrong place to maximize your profit!

Bikedued

I don't know. $125 is a high starting bid. Why not just have it as the BIN price? I cannot get
anyone to bid over $50 for my world sport which is sad for a crmo bike that is that clean.,,,,BD

Hammy555

Hello to all of you. Yes, some people did PM me. Very few though. Three tentively made offers. I can understand someone not having the funds to follow through to complete the deal. This is no big deal. What I don't understand is those of you that did nothing but use the opportunity to insult, complain and tear down the reality of the situation. There were a few of you, especially Dante, that did all the gentlemanly things. Welcomed me to the forum, helped post photos, and gave honest, good direction. Kudos to him. Then just read the threads from most of the others, ugh. I'll end by saying that any of you souls are still welcome to a bike at 125.00 plus shipping. However, I make this statement knowing that none of you complaining people will step up to bat. Just love to complain and feel important. Now I've given you all the ammo you need to go off. Gees, even the goddess can now pass judgement as if it's her station in life to be almighty. Thanks for all the insults and my apologies to Dante an Wes for feeling the way I do about the forum.

JunkYardBike

I don't see many insults, just opinions. Again, I personally don't begrudge your desire to maximize your profit. I would do the same. It's just that C&V is a community of sorts, and many people come here simply to have their bikes appraised for resale elsewhere, and then they never return. There's really nothing wrong with this either, as we all have the freedom not to respond (and many don't for this very reason).

I understand that you found the rules of the community a bit of an obstacle, as it is against forum policy to directly sell items (with the exception of the For Sale forum). So, if nothing else, I've given you free advertising by posting your ebay listing. In addition, I've pointed out how many C&V members, including myself are bargain hunters (i.e. cheapskates).

So, think of this all as more of an in-family discussion. Best of luck to you. I hope you do well!

EDIT: Ah, I see you've added a BIN price. So it appears you are gleaning some degree of help from our curmudgeonly discussion?

Sammyboy

Come on guys, this chap was completely open. He had the bikes, he wanted to sell them, he wanted to know what they were worth. How much more honest could he be? A guy has to make a living, and not everyone loves this hobby. If you want to make a forum rule that asking about value is bad, then do it, but it'll put me off. He didn't pretend he wanted to keep them, he said from the start what he was about. Nobody was ripped off here.

Walter

I'm with Sammy on this. The OP was pretty straightforward and obviously felt he could do better than whatever private offers he got.

Like many of us I'm always interested to see these occasional "time-capsule" bikes. Old low-line Puch's don't tickle my toes but if they did and I had PM'ed and he had decided to try eBay I don't see where I could complain.

Little Darwin

The most interesting part of this thread was seeing the lugs, which look exactly like the ones on my 1970's Sears bike.

Like RedneckWes, I don't need another bike right now, but the chance at an NOS bike is a serious temptation. However, with shipping, I don't know that $100 would be low enough unless I really wanted one of these to fill a niche in my stable.

Hammy, one question for curiosity...

Do the lugs look like they are welded underneath like in the attached photo?

Cyclepath

I had my two clean crmos on Ebay - got two nibbles, one guy after the auction wanted to give me $50 for BOTH. I decided to keep the bikes & upgrade/replace parts as needed. I don't need a 10 speed. The 7s & triples perform all tasks required of them.

Hammy555

I'm not sure which area of the bike you mean. I'm thinking that lugs refer to lug nuts which would make it the drop-out area. Give me a lottle more help here and I'll try to answer.

phoebeisis

Hammy-yeah, in a way they are a little like lug nuts-they hold things together.. They are the connectors that the frame tubes fit into. The tubes are put in these connectors,and then the connectors are bonded to the tubes with silver solder(expensive) or just welded in some way-cheaper.Maybe even bonded with epoxy-super adhesive.
The connectors are probably used because it would have been very hard to exactly match the tubes together-the angled cuts would have to be PERFECT-which was waaaay beyond 1970 technology.They also spread the load out more.
You just cut the tubes kinda close,and slip them into these hollow connectors-weld or solder away!
They are bigger in outside diameter than the tubes.The connectors inside diameter is a tiny bit bigger than the frame tubes outside diameter.
Luck,
Charlie

Hammy555

The area shows no welds. Everything seems to be smooth. I don't know how they are bonded.

If you want to see a photo, send me your email.

BobHufford

Forgive Hammy -- he comes from an Electro-Forged world (but I've seen his collection and he rules that world).

And we'll begin to start sounding like the C/R List ...

I'd rather see some interesting bikes show up here no matter what the reason. Abuse us if they must.

Bob

Little Darwin

No, I don't need pics, I was just curious, because my Sears Austrian built bike has it that way, and I have never seen lugs like it, so I was curious if your Puch bikes had it, since the head lugs look identical.

Thanks for the info.

mastershake916

Well, okay.

Bikedued

$50 for both? That's less than thrift store prices. I hope you gave a nice LMAO as a reply.

MY auction ended earlier at $61. Started at $50, and was all
one bidder. I think I will take the rims off of it and use them for my le tour project. I will turn the WS into a fixie and probably get four times the auction end. I love the components too, so they can go on something.,,,,BD

nlerner

I also think that unless you're shipping to Australia, it's the wrong time of year to be selling bikes. Pockets are light following the holidays and weather isn't good for riding; collectors/restorers are holed up working on current projects. Time to wait until March.

Neal

tolfan

Is the price realy too high? looking on craigs list for Pa & Nj it seems about right around here. also ebay most suff goes around 100