bad ebay seller warning
#1
bad ebay seller warning
I bid on and bought this Shimano BB
ebay auction of bottom bracket
Was supposed to have a 107mm spindle. I was sent the same item, but with a 115mm spindle.
This is what I sent the seller:
"Received the BB-UN73 today - was advertised as a 107mm spindle length - you shipped me a 115mm. The BB you shipped is model# 1BBUN73B15,(the B15 signifying 115mm?),but I've measured it at that length, too. What's our next step? Thanks"
Today I got back his reply:
"No, that item was checked prior to shipping and the exact item as listed was sent to you.
We accept no returns"
Do not buy from this seller - sellchamp2007
ebay auction of bottom bracket
Was supposed to have a 107mm spindle. I was sent the same item, but with a 115mm spindle.
This is what I sent the seller:
"Received the BB-UN73 today - was advertised as a 107mm spindle length - you shipped me a 115mm. The BB you shipped is model# 1BBUN73B15,(the B15 signifying 115mm?),but I've measured it at that length, too. What's our next step? Thanks"
Today I got back his reply:
"No, that item was checked prior to shipping and the exact item as listed was sent to you.
We accept no returns"
Do not buy from this seller - sellchamp2007
#2
feros ferio

Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 22,397
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From: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
In contrast, I ordered a SunTour freewheel which was advertised as a 13-26, which I wanted, but I have to admit that the photo depicted a 13-23, which I received. Even though the mistake was partly mine, the seller agreed to take it back and pay the shipping. Partly because of this positive, helpful attitude and partly because I may be able to find a use for it, I declined. Some folks understand good customer service; your seller clearly is clueless.
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
#3
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 446
Likes: 1
From: Oklahoma City
Bikes: Canondale LL Bean, Criterium; both MY Schwinn Volare's, Voyageur 11.8; Holdsworth; Bob Jackson; Raleigh Super Course Mk II and Super Course Racing USA; Trek 1500
With only 52 feedbacks, you are dealing with a novice. You may be able to reason with him that you understand his skepticism, and that you would probably feel the same way if you were in his shoes, HOWEVER, you are 100% certain that you did not receive a 107mm spindle, and would appreciate it if they would ship the correct spindle in exchange for the 115mm one. Also, casually mention you are a member of the Bike Forum with thousands of members who are monitoring the outcome of this transaction.
If that doesn't work, then you can always submit a request for arbitration through ebay, through which you can state your case, and through which he will be forced to respond. The last resort is negative feedback.
If that doesn't work, then you can always submit a request for arbitration through ebay, through which you can state your case, and through which he will be forced to respond. The last resort is negative feedback.
#4
Customer service is virtually dead everywhere, why would you expect to find it on eBay?
Unfortunately eBay has evolved to give the power to sellers. The few times I have sold on eBay, I do like it always used to be done, I leave positive feedback as soon as I receive payment and ship the item. The current norm is for a seller to not leave feedback until they receive feedback so they can use their feedback as retaliation instead of making the customer happy to get the positive feedback.
If this weren't the case, I would say to leave negative feedback. But, unfortunately in the screwed up customer is always wrong environment that is western society today, you have no recourse unless you don't mind the negative feedback.
I still hold to the position that as soon as the buyer has paid they have fulfilled their obligation, and deserve the appropriate feedback.
If a seller only posts feedback in response to buyer feedback it is like proclaiming that you will not do what it takes to make the transaction right. It is saying that the seller refuses to satisfy the buyer because they might not be happy with the purchase, and the seller is the only one that matters.
Unfortunately eBay has evolved to give the power to sellers. The few times I have sold on eBay, I do like it always used to be done, I leave positive feedback as soon as I receive payment and ship the item. The current norm is for a seller to not leave feedback until they receive feedback so they can use their feedback as retaliation instead of making the customer happy to get the positive feedback.
If this weren't the case, I would say to leave negative feedback. But, unfortunately in the screwed up customer is always wrong environment that is western society today, you have no recourse unless you don't mind the negative feedback.
I still hold to the position that as soon as the buyer has paid they have fulfilled their obligation, and deserve the appropriate feedback.
If a seller only posts feedback in response to buyer feedback it is like proclaiming that you will not do what it takes to make the transaction right. It is saying that the seller refuses to satisfy the buyer because they might not be happy with the purchase, and the seller is the only one that matters.
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People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Slow Ride Cyclists of NEPA
People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
#5
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,768
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Bikes: Cinelli, Paramount, Raleigh, Carlton, Zeus, Gemniani, Frejus, Legnano, Pinarello, Falcon
Not true. File a complaint through ebay channels. The one time I was sent bum stuff and the seller refused to make it right, 2 months later he was pleading with me to retract my complaint so they wouldn't boot him and make him start over with a new name.
#6
3825 'em!
Give the asshat a neg and be prepared to get one yourself. As a former eBay Powerseller (over 11,000 positive feedback, 99.9% rating) I have little time for incompotent and insensitive sellers. If I, as a seller messed up, I did everything I could to make it right. This would be the last tme I dealt with this seller. Much as I have done with 'bikestopsales'. That dude has a lot to learn.
Give the asshat a neg and be prepared to get one yourself. As a former eBay Powerseller (over 11,000 positive feedback, 99.9% rating) I have little time for incompotent and insensitive sellers. If I, as a seller messed up, I did everything I could to make it right. This would be the last tme I dealt with this seller. Much as I have done with 'bikestopsales'. That dude has a lot to learn.
#7
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
From: Stratford Ontario Canada
Bikes: NORCO, GIANT
About 2 weeks ago a guy emails me saying the bike I sold him the rear triangle was bent together. I wanted pics because I couldnt under stand how that could happen as I had mounted a old rear hub in the stays. Just for that reason. And yes after hagling back and forth I agreed to give his money back if he paid to ship it back. Just to not get bad feed back. When I got the bike back it was just tossed in the same box no care taken at all.I emailed him and told him what goes around comes around. His reply F...YOU.
#9
feros ferio

Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 22,397
Likes: 1,864
From: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Originally Posted by McDave
Negative Feedback: "Bought 107mm, got 115mm. Seller refused to make good."
Short, factual, and well deserved.
Short, factual, and well deserved.
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
#11
feros ferio

Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 22,397
Likes: 1,864
From: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Originally Posted by dbakl
Not true. File a complaint through ebay channels. The one time I was sent bum stuff and the seller refused to make it right, 2 months later he was pleading with me to retract my complaint so they wouldn't boot him and make him start over with a new name.
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
#12
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,404
Likes: 2
I just checked on the seller's feedback to see if the OP had left a feedback yet and found this Neutral from last month...
Buyer actionbent04: Item listed on EBay Canada in USD, Shipped within Canada via Canada Post USD
Reply by sellchamp2007: Your expectations are unrealistic & U don't know eBay. Dont shop again with us.
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Thanks for the warning, I sure won't!
Buyer actionbent04: Item listed on EBay Canada in USD, Shipped within Canada via Canada Post USD
Reply by sellchamp2007: Your expectations are unrealistic & U don't know eBay. Dont shop again with us.
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Thanks for the warning, I sure won't!
#13
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,082
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by McDave
I just checked on the seller's feedback to see if the OP had left a feedback yet and found this Neutral from last month...
Buyer actionbent04: Item listed on EBay Canada in USD, Shipped within Canada via Canada Post USD
Reply by sellchamp2007: Your expectations are unrealistic & U don't know eBay. Dont shop again with us.
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Thanks for the warning, I sure won't!
Buyer actionbent04: Item listed on EBay Canada in USD, Shipped within Canada via Canada Post USD
Reply by sellchamp2007: Your expectations are unrealistic & U don't know eBay. Dont shop again with us.
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Thanks for the warning, I sure won't!
#14
K2ProFlex baby!
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,134
Likes: 59
From: My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
Bikes: to many to list
I say we all send this so called seller an ebay mail letting him know that hes trying to jerk one of our members, and that he'll be losing many, many, possible future customers if he doesnt make things right!








