Can anyone date this frame based on the pictures?

Also, I'm interested in maybe buying it to restore- any advice on what to look for?

Thanks.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/294372757.html

I am not a Pinarello expert, but from what you can see in the pics it looks to be about an 83/84. I believe that Pinarello went to a sloping fork crown in 85 and it has a braze-on front derailleur hanger which appeared in around 83(?).

As far as what to look for: good chrome, no flaking or rust: frame is straight and true, no dings or dents.

I like it and it seems like a fair price, Decals are readily available and that red is fairly easy to touch up if you don't want to do a full repaint. Pinarello are sort of an overlooked marque and so they are kind of a bargain, they ride nice and are often commented to be a favourite ride even by owners who have a large collection of vintage/classic bikes.

Buy it!

vjp

Nice Bike, cables routed under the BB shell, and braze-on front derailleur hanger means that it's likely Mid-80's. If it is a Tresviso(the model, second in the Pinarello line-up after the Montello) then it is well worth the asking price. Someone will snap that up quick in San Francisco. Pinarellos were made in the town of Tresviso, and all the headbadges say it, this frequently seems to confuse people and I see a lot of lesser bikes labled Tresviso. A Tresviso will say it on the top tube, and will be made of SL or SLX, lower models generally were constructed of Tretubi.

This one looks to be in pretty nice shape, it may well be worth the money no matter what the model, that's up to you. But in that market you don't have very long to think about it

I have one of these Tritubi models and it's a great bike, my century+ ride. That frame looks very much like mine with some pantographing mine lacks, so I'd guess it was higher in the line-up. Could very well be a Tresviso.

edited to add: It's something close to a divine miracle anytime an old Pinarello has it's decals intact.

+1, buy it! I don't agree that Pinarello's are an overlooked marque, plenty of riders I know think they are the #1 marque...whatever their rank, they are up there and this looks like a good example, especially after a little buffing.

I meant by collectors of vintage bikes. If this was a Colnago it would be $500 not $210 but it wouldn't ride any better. They are a great value. I would love to find a mid 70's navy blue one....that would be amazing.

I have an 83 Battaglin that I bought from a Colnago collector for $80, the early Battaglin' were made by Pinarello and are REALLY overlooked. I am having it re-finished right now and can't wait to show it to the previous owner who dismissed it as a "lesser" bike.

vjp

"collectors" can be so snooty about the status of their precious jewels, but we are in agreement: the real value is in the ride and often overlooked by people looking at bikes as investments. Good thing for the folks who can't afford the Confentes that there are Pinarellos and Battaglins (among many others) available for a fraction of the $$.

Amen!!

vjp

It doesn't appear to have ever had an Olympic decal, so I agree it is probably 83-84. Here is a link to some old catalogs. https://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/

Thanks for the feedback. Based on the catalogs on the Bulgier site, it definitely appears to be pre '85. I'm still trying to figure out the year and model though. So far I haven't seen any other Pinarellos with both chainstays chromed, but not the seatstays.

It has "S309" stamped on the fork's steertube. I couldn't find any stamps inside headtube or bottom bracket shell. I can't make out any 'ghost' decals where the model usually is on the top tube near the head tube.

I'm currently building it up and the more I work on it, the more I'd like to know its history. Here are a couple photos that may help one of you aficianados to id it.





If the photos don't work, you can find them at:
https://new.photos.yahoo.com/powell_m...60762398692994

Thanks for any help.

I don't know a dang thing about Pinarellos, but I looked into buying one awhile ago, and ran across a fellow on the Road Bike Review site that had fair knowledge. It may pay to poke around there for info.

Judging from the pictures I would hazard a guess that your bike is not top of the line, but near the top. Chrome on the chain stays is always a good thing. Feel inside the tubes from the bottom bracket to see if it's SL or SLX. I would guess it's at least SL. I would tend to agree with marengo that it is a Treviso model.

I've yet to see a vintage Pinarello with good original paint or complete decals. When I was active back in the early to mid 80's Pinarellos were considered to be a second tier bike, but that may have been snobbery in my locale. In any case it looks like a fine bike and I'm sure you'll enjoy riding it.

I doubt us mere mortals could tell the difference in ride between a De Rosa and a Pinarello in any case.

Also, it appears your drop out screws are in backwards.

Looks alot like this frame:
https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Pinarell...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks Old Fat Guy. I noticed the dropout screws too. Unfortunately, when I tried to back one out, it snapped b/c it was bent a little. Now I've got one backwards and one broken! When you say "fell inside the tubes" to determine Columbus SL or SLX, what exactly am I feeling for?

Thanks.

feel for ridges, ridges = SLX, smooth = SL

Yes, exactly. I think it is most likely SL. Nothing wrong with that.