Unkown Steel Road Frame
08-27-07 | 08:30 PM
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REDBEARD
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Unkown Steel Road Frame
Hello, Does anyone know if Suntour manufactured steel road frames? I bought a used lugged steel road frame from ebay. I bought it stripped and primed. The person who sold it to me claims it is a Bianchi, highly doubted. There are no Bianchi stamps, but it does have Suntour stamps on the fork ends and rear dropouts.
08-27-07 | 09:15 PM
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Japanese Bianchi, perhaps? Pictures, please!
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
08-27-07 | 09:18 PM
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Yep, could be a Japanese Bianchi, I don't know enough to say whether they had Suntour DOs/ends or not. Here's a pic from an '83 catalog, 3 have clearly marked Ishiwata tubing, but can you tell the make of forkends?
https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-83/12.jpg
https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-83/12.jpg
08-28-07 | 04:28 PM
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Can't tell much without close-ups of the lugs, BB etc... The japanese Bianchis I have come across have either had unlabelled drop-outs or shimano dropouts but that doesn't mean they never had suntour.
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08-28-07 | 04:34 PM
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It's hard to tell from the pic as it is kinda small and "far away"....I circled part of it in red...it looks like it says something on the seatstay cap...yes? If so, what is it?
I think even the oldest of the Japanese Bianchi's had pump pegs as well...I don't see one, but it may be washed out in the pic. I had a Japanese built Bianchi yeeeeeeeeeears ago, but it did not have Suntour drop-outs...don't think that means a whole bunch, but it's the only real reference I have.
I think even the oldest of the Japanese Bianchi's had pump pegs as well...I don't see one, but it may be washed out in the pic. I had a Japanese built Bianchi yeeeeeeeeeears ago, but it did not have Suntour drop-outs...don't think that means a whole bunch, but it's the only real reference I have.
08-28-07 | 04:40 PM
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It's hard to tell from the pic as it is kinda small and "far away"....I circled part of it in red...it looks like it says something on the seatstay cap...yes? If so, what is it?
I think even the oldest of the Japanese Bianchi's had pump pegs as well...I don't see one, but it may be washed out in the pic. I had a Japanese built Bianchi yeeeeeeeeeears ago, but it did not have Suntour drop-outs...don't think that means a whole bunch, but it's the only real reference I have.
I think even the oldest of the Japanese Bianchi's had pump pegs as well...I don't see one, but it may be washed out in the pic. I had a Japanese built Bianchi yeeeeeeeeeears ago, but it did not have Suntour drop-outs...don't think that means a whole bunch, but it's the only real reference I have.
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08-28-07 | 10:31 PM
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for some reason the bulgier catalog scans are down at the moment...but if you COULD see that '83 and '84 catalogs that show the Japanese-built Ishiwata frames, you will see at least one model has the scalloped seatstay caps. And that most have a classic semi-sloping fork crown with the letter "B" engraved on the tops.
