Alas, not the first Campy "fail:"

A Zombie on Thanksgiving.

Anyways are they compatible with modern shoes?

Sure if you've got the cleats. They are a 3 bolt pattern and will screw into any shoe.

Once your clear wears out you might be in trouble as I doubt you'll find many of those.

I don't know- I would talk to my favorite bike shop and tell them to call Euro-Asia Imports. I bet they still have Campy SGR cleats available.

FWIW: I worked for Euro-Asia 20 years ago. I dropped by to visit a couple days ago and felt like I was in a time warp. Same place, same people, same office furniture. I looked around and some of the boxes I labeled back then are still on the shelf.

Hi Walter,
You're saying that as long the bike shoes has 3 bolts pattern (any brand/manufacture), it will fit the Campagnolo SGR cleats. Right?
Btw, I seen SGR cleats selling in ebay, most of them are NOS.

FWIW, Yellow Jersey has SGR cleats:

To achieve this self-righting feature, with the SRG pedals Campy pioneered the use of depleted uranium in bike components as ballast material.

The self-righting feature is useless. I used the pedals maybe twice. They are dangerous pedals, when the cleats are dirty, it is impossible to get out of them.
I am now using them as paperweights.
The cleats are regularly on Ebay for about $25.

Bump.
Actually, I'm looking for a scan of the instructions/manual for maintaining a set of SGRs. I just picked up a pair in my on going geek-out on anything C-record (1988 or so).

I would appreciate it if any one could post a PDF or link.

And while I'm here, I'll add a few things to address the previous (although very dated) conversation:
1. Yes, the SGR cleats are compatible with any three hole shoes. They use the original Look standard drilling from ~1986-ish, and still in use today (2014).
2. SGR cleats can easily be found NOS on eBay and at reasonable prices - a bit more than Look Deltas, but not really that bad (just picked up two pair). I got them for $40/pair, including the original mounting hardware (new in Campy baggy).
3. Even a used pair of SGRs can be found at a decent price for any one else looking for some of that old C-Record gear that was as much artwork as it was cycle components.
4. Yes, they are very heavy for pedal, and a very stiff kick-out if they sit for two long.
5. There is a mechanism that gently holds them in place relative to the spindle, but once released (by kicking in) the spindles are wonderfully smooth - even on my ~30 year old set.
6. As I remember, the original 1986-1988 (??) retail price was around $800 (as memory serves).

As far as History - as best I can figure:
Campy was a toe clip hold out for a while - even after the clip-less writing was on the on the wall, they continued to market a collection of toe clipped pedals. But were slow to give them up completely. I assume they expected clip-less to be a fad (it was the 1980s - this was a natural reaction to just about everything).
Campy released the SGR - their own design at the beginning of the of the clip-less revolution in the late 1980s (when I was in high school, and doing the original build of the machine that I'm finishing now with the drool-over hardware: C-Record). Based on the success (or lack there of) Campy made the jump to using actual Look pedals. I have read that they were either made by Look with Campy spindles, or made by Campy under license. Either way, the 1990s era Campy/Look pedals are essentially look (delta cleat) pedals. Eventually (not sure when) Campy released their Pro Fit pedals, which have done much better than their SGRs, but are still on the pricey side (~$450 full retail for Record Pro Fits).

Fortunately, all Campy pedals, clipped and otherwise are still service-able, and can be mounted on modern cranks - one "standard" that has not yet changed. But as with any Look Delta pedal, the KEO cleats will not work with Delta cleat standard pedals - but the black and red (float) cleats can be bought off the shelf (just picked up a set of blacks for my old 1986-ish Mavic Look standard pedals a couple weeks ago at REI). The SGR pedal / cleats are NOT compatible with anything else I have seen.

And of final note, the adjusting bolt on the inside of the SGRs used either a 6mm Allen wrench or an 11 mm open ended spanner. There is an inner tensioning bolt (forget the size, but it requires an allen wrench). I was actually hoping that something on these pedals would require a 3.5 mm allen wrench (a little Campy humour).

That should be plenty of info for any one looking at a set of SGRs. I'll have to update once I get them on my machine and put on a few miles.

~Monkey~

Both Campagnolo and Shimano were taken by surprise at the sudden success of Look's clipless pedals. Both companies marketed Look-built pedals under their own names while developing their own clipless designs (I have examples of both Shimano and Campagnolo badged pedals with "MADE IN FRANCE" on them). Campagnolo's first clipless design was SGR, and it was a flop. Shimano's actually worked well.

Based on what I've read, Shimanos were pure Look pedals with the Shimano name on them. The Campy Look pedal came in two varieties - The pure Look type with six wrench flats, and the Look pedal on a Campy spindle (two wrench flats).
Now before I get flamed, it seems that it was no holds barred in pedal at that time, so the above statement seems to hold in most cases, but not all. Especially with Campy. I have a growing collection on late '80s / early '90s campy parts. It's annoying trying to figure out what each is.... "It may be Chorus, except when Chorus was not Chorus, but it was Athena, except for first generation, which had this extra adjustment thingy..."

Thankfully all I really *need* is to identify C-Record from the 1986-1988 time frame for my machine. Which I had all sorted only to discover that Campy made saddles for a short period of time (early 1990s)... now I'm getting OCD about finding one.

From what I can tell, even the pedals that used the Campy two-wrench-flat axles still used a clipless cleat retention assembly built and supplied by Look.

There was a seller on eBay several years ago blowing out those saddles for about $50...



VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo Electa (Sella - Pneumatic System)

Some were Look build on the Campy spindles, and some may have been Campy built under Look license. Some say that the Campy spindles were better spinner - but then Campy has always been known for their bearing assemblies.
But they were all used the Look three bolt standard, SGRs, Profit, and Campy.Look pedals.

WHAH!!! And now they are showing up at $1100!

Now is the time in this thread where I start to <BLEEP> excessively.

I have one of these Campagnolo saddles, bought a few years ago from Ebay.



Campagnolo also made aerodynamic bottles in the 80s. Here is my Nagasawa, build with full C-Record, Campagnolo saddle, bottle and rims.
The few non Campagnolo parts are the handlebar and stem, they are Shimano Dura-ace.
I do have SGR pedals, but they difficult to release, so decided for toeclips and straps. I also have Look Chorus pedals.

NICE!.
I don't think Campy ever made bars and stems. And I never did like the water bottle.
I did a break down and some clean up / lube on my SGRs the other night. They aren't mounted on a bike, but just clicking in and manually "kicking out" they seemed pretty smooth. No worse than my Mavic Look-look-a-likes. Too bad they didn't stick with the SGRs - looks like there is some good work there, but just needs a bit more engineering... Although I think the positioning of the tensioning mechanism in front of the spindle may have been the down fall (mechanically).
I'll probably get a couple pairs of Record Pro Fits - one for a future project, and one for my C-Record machine. I'll use the SGRs when I want to go full-on Corsa Geek.

I have a set of Omega Strada Hardox (NOS) and C-Record hubs (virgin front) that I need to get laced. (I also have Record hubs with Araya CTL-370s rims, and Chorus hubs with Mavic GL/GEL rims).
I'm hoping to find a good deal on a saddle soon... But there was also a Brooks / Campagnolo saddle that might do as well.
I wonder why they got out of the saddle business, or at least didn't maintain a partnership with a full time saddle maker.

FYI
I heard it was Richard Sachs that was behind that Campy saddle blow out.

No, it was an Italian who sold the Campagnolo saddles a few years ago.

The SGR pedals are already over engineered as they are now. They have several disadvantages, when the cleats are even a little dirty, it becomes alomst impossible to unclip.

Maybe they were both part of a saddle cartel!
Who knows - there are many things in the world of Campy that mortal man is not meant to know.

I wasn't implying that they add more, but take what they have and make improvements. Like moving the that tensioning mechanism to a place behind the spindel - at least that way they will tip up properly (they are front heavy). Honestly, I think they could remove that front spring altogether.
I have mine set at the lowest possible tension, and I think I like it (I have yet to road test). If I ever get a second set, I may just try them without the front spring.
Needless to say, I didn't buy these for their practicality - I'm just going all Campy-geek and trying to get all of those bits and pieces that I could only stare at and wish for back when I was in High School and building up my Vitus (~1988).

While you're at it, you should try and find a set of the Victory High-Flange hubs. If this picture didn't exist, I'd swear they were just a legend.

I see what you did there... taking advantage of my recent move to the Dork side of the force!
But alas, I already have enough 126mm hub sets (Record, Chorus, and Corsa Record). Although I don't have Croce D'Aune hubs from that late 1980s era...

(but you know I'll be keeping an eye out).

Hopefully I will get home in the next couple months (I travel a lot for work) and will be able to start wrenchin' on the bikes and consolidating (and selling off) all of the extra bits and pieces.

And to get back to why I originally bumped this thread - maint. tips for the SGRs...
Turns out I don't really need them. Once you take off that top and rear plates, all of the release mech is visible. Just a quick cleaning, and hit the moving parts with a *little* grease, and I'm good. The sindles were smooth as silk, with no side-play, so I didn't have to pop those open.

~Monkey~