Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
#252
Lotion/Basket/Hose

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From: Chicago
Bikes: 1992 Schwinn Paramount

1992 PDG Paramount Series 3 with 8-speed Ultegra. At some point, I'd like to put Rival on it, but for the bike's purpose (I keep it at my parents' house in Cincinnati for me to ride if I take the MegaBus back home from Chicago), it does exceedingly well, besides the fact that the shifter needs a sprayout with WD-40 every once in a while.
I need a slightly longer stem, just because I have some gangly limbs that make bike fitting hard. For the price I paid, $250, it works.
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Looks like my size. You could drop it off at my house next spring on your way from AZ to A2.
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Bill,
I'm thinking of taking it to AZ next week, if I can fit it inside the car. I take US12 to Coldwater, then South, so I don't quite make it to Kazoo, sorry.
I may be selling one of my Faema Merckx's, though. 54 cm pics here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/ypsibikes/Faema#
and here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/ypsibikes/AZFaemaMerckx#
They won't be cheap!
I'm thinking of taking it to AZ next week, if I can fit it inside the car. I take US12 to Coldwater, then South, so I don't quite make it to Kazoo, sorry.
I may be selling one of my Faema Merckx's, though. 54 cm pics here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/ypsibikes/Faema#
and here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/ypsibikes/AZFaemaMerckx#
They won't be cheap!
#256
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From: Sacramento, CA
Bikes: '64 Bianchi CDM, '62ish Altenburger Cinelli Mod B, '63-64 Cinelli SC, 69 Rene Herse Competition, '71 Gitane SC, '73 Cinelli SC, '73-74 Colnago Super,, '73-74 Cinelli SC, '78ish counterfeit Confente, '82 Medici Gran Turismo, '67ish Mondia Speciale
#257
WV is not flat..

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From: Charles Town,Wv.
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I think that's a first for me. One downtube shifter and one STI. You're only allowed to post half of that bike in this thread..
That is a pretty cool part time bike to keep at your parents house. I would not be able to spend any time with them if I visited. I would be on that ride...

I think that's a first for me. One downtube shifter and one STI. You're only allowed to post half of that bike in this thread..
That is a pretty cool part time bike to keep at your parents house. I would not be able to spend any time with them if I visited. I would be on that ride...
#259
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Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaña pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility
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Bikes: 2004 Cinelli Supercorsa, 2005 Tommasini track, 1983 Specialized Expedition, 1991 Fuso Cyclocross, 1991 Masi Team 3V, 1989 Serotta, De Rosa Neo Primato
#261
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And,
You need one of these ;
https://vintagevelos.com/jer-faema1.html
or, one of these;
https://vintagevelos.com/trainers1.html
#262
WV is not flat..

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#263
Weight, on a mountain stage you tend to stay in on the small ring in the front. This was before it was so easy to get bikes 2-3lbs under UCI limits.
I couldn't imagine riding on the hods with mismatched levers though.
I couldn't imagine riding on the hods with mismatched levers though.
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#266
'90 trek 420. The only original component is the headset. It's set up for light touring/commuting at the moment, and I'm still searching for a silver OP to go on the front. 9spd 105 except for an LX rd because I like easy gearing.


#267
This is an early 80s (I'm guessing) 49cm Palo Alto, built by BMZ, that I built up for my girlfriend as a surprise birthday present. It was repainted previously, so I had it stripped and powder coated locally, and I think he did a great job. It's a mix of NOS parts (Cinelli 1A stem, Sun Tour Cyclone 7000 cranks) as well as whatever new parts I could get my hands on over a busy week or two. I pretty much put on it what I thought would look nice and function well, without completely breaking the bank.






Thanks to bigbossman and others for making sure there was plenty of information on Palo Alto and BMZ archived in earlier threads.
Edit: Most of the little white lines in the closeups are either reflections or dust and fuzz. I don't know if it's a leftover effect of the electrostatic charge during the powder coating or not, but it's acting like a static cling magnet! It was pretty much flawless on delivery of the frame, though.






Thanks to bigbossman and others for making sure there was plenty of information on Palo Alto and BMZ archived in earlier threads.
Edit: Most of the little white lines in the closeups are either reflections or dust and fuzz. I don't know if it's a leftover effect of the electrostatic charge during the powder coating or not, but it's acting like a static cling magnet! It was pretty much flawless on delivery of the frame, though.
Last edited by Kellan; 10-27-08 at 08:27 PM.
#268
You're welcome. I have a pile of bikes I rotate through for rides, and the Palo Alto is my favorite.
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#269
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You need to cut your grass.
And,
You need one of these ;
https://vintagevelos.com/jer-faema1.html
or, one of these;
https://vintagevelos.com/trainers1.html
And,
You need one of these ;
https://vintagevelos.com/jer-faema1.html
or, one of these;
https://vintagevelos.com/trainers1.html
#270
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From: Beautiful Long Beach California
Bikes: Eddy Merckx San Remo 76, Eddy Merckx San Remo 76 - Black Silver and Red, Eddy Merckx Sallanches 64 (2); Eddy Merckx MXL;
Bill,
I'm thinking of taking it to AZ next week, if I can fit it inside the car. I take US12 to Coldwater, then South, so I don't quite make it to Kazoo, sorry.
I may be selling one of my Faema Merckx's, though. 54 cm pics here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/ypsibikes/Faema#
and here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/ypsibikes/AZFaemaMerckx#
They won't be cheap!
I'm thinking of taking it to AZ next week, if I can fit it inside the car. I take US12 to Coldwater, then South, so I don't quite make it to Kazoo, sorry.
I may be selling one of my Faema Merckx's, though. 54 cm pics here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/ypsibikes/Faema#
and here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/ypsibikes/AZFaemaMerckx#
They won't be cheap!
#272
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Lance’s downtube shfter
Dear Lennard,
Lance's bike had one STI shifter and a downtube shifter for the front derailleur. Is there a performance advantage in this setup?
Tom
Dear Lennard,
After looking through photos of Lance Armstrong riding his bike, I can't help but notice the small shifter-like lever on the left side of his bike. And I doubt he still uses downtube shifters. Do you know what this lever is? I saw on a bicycle before one of these that activated a switch for a hub generator on a light. And I also doubt Lance has some light hidden away.
Ian
Dear Ian and Tom,
In all of Armstrong’s Tours since 1999, he has used a standard (non-integrated) left brake lever and a downtube shift lever for the front derailleur on mountain stages. Given that a standard Dura-Ace, non-integrated brake lever weighs 130 grams and a Dura-Ace 10-speed STI lever weighs 210 grams, you are looking at a simple weight savings. The downtube shift lever can add as little as 30 grams, plus you save a bunch of grams in extra cable and housing you don’t need looping around the front of the bike. You don’t shift the front derailleur often on a mountain – once at the bottom and once at the top – so there is not much efficiency lost. So you can give up looking for a hidden light on his bike, Ian.
Lennard
#273
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My De Rosa over the years
It started out as a well used '82 De Rosa Professional with Super Record:

It received a well deserved repaint by CyclArt, had it cold set to 130mm and upgraded to 10 speed:

After the 10 speed conversion it just didn't look right and I decided to back date it to 8 speed, the bike as it stands today:


It received a well deserved repaint by CyclArt, had it cold set to 130mm and upgraded to 10 speed:

After the 10 speed conversion it just didn't look right and I decided to back date it to 8 speed, the bike as it stands today:

Last edited by orbeamike; 10-28-08 at 12:38 PM.
#275
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From: Beautiful Long Beach California
Bikes: Eddy Merckx San Remo 76, Eddy Merckx San Remo 76 - Black Silver and Red, Eddy Merckx Sallanches 64 (2); Eddy Merckx MXL;
Very nice but if the front triangle was replaced and the fork was replaced that means that the only things origianl are the seat stays and the chain stays!!! The seat stay looks different because it doens't have the EM.









), new paint, carbon fork upgrade, and 10 speed update: