Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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I just ordered another set for a Tommasini I am putting together.
I am using them with a spare Cinelli 1a I have here, but they would likely look better with a Nitto Pearl.
The ride on your Colnago must be fantastic with those PRs.
I've had good luck with them.
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'97 Trek Multi-Track frame with Shimano 105 5500/5503 9-speed triple group (RD is black 5700 GS upgrade to group)
Brakes are Cane Creek in back and Shorty 4 in front with Kool-Stop holders and pads.
Sugino triple External BB crankset, Alex wheelset w/Parallax hubs and Tiagra cassette.
Yes, I will probably be going to hell.
Brakes are Cane Creek in back and Shorty 4 in front with Kool-Stop holders and pads.
Sugino triple External BB crankset, Alex wheelset w/Parallax hubs and Tiagra cassette.
Yes, I will probably be going to hell.
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De Rosa '57 Replica (made in '89?) with 9 spd. Record ti.
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'97 Trek Multi-Track frame with Shimano 105 5500/5503 9-speed triple group (RD is black 5700 GS upgrade to group)
Brakes are Cane Creek in back and Shorty 4 in front with Kool-Stop holders and pads.
Sugino triple External BB crankset, Alex wheelset w/Parallax hubs and Tiagra cassette.
Yes, I will probably be going to hell.
Brakes are Cane Creek in back and Shorty 4 in front with Kool-Stop holders and pads.
Sugino triple External BB crankset, Alex wheelset w/Parallax hubs and Tiagra cassette.
Yes, I will probably be going to hell.
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Ditto on the tires and stem....been pondering the threadless look for a while. Plus I could drop the bars lower.
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The quill stem adapter is one of these. It's the tallest one I've found. Then it goes to the threadless CF stem and drop bars. The bike is a little on the small side for me, but that gives me a TON of under-crotch clearance for more muddy single-track adventures and slipping and sliding on icy/snowy roads in the winter without having to worry about the boys like I would be if I were riding a frame sized a little larger and fitting me better in those sloppy conditions. This is a 54cm and I usually like a 56-57 for regular riding.
Yes, bibliobob. That's a google auto-awesome gif. I had hoped it would scan back and forth but that's auto-awesome for you. You have no control how it comes out.
I've got a nicer Fuji 1" threaded CX fork I want to put on that bike but I need to have the threads extended or cobble a threadless 1" headset and a threaded one together into a riser headset to get the longer steer tube fork to work. A longer, higher fork and headset spacers would allow me to use a lighter conventional quill stem adapter and not that heavy long adapter. The stock Trek fork weighs nearly as much as the rest of the frame. It's REALLY over-built. It's also a bit too stiff. It's almost like the fork legs are solid instead of being hollow tubes.
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The quill stem adapter is one of these. It's the tallest one I've found. Then it goes to the threadless CF stem and drop bars. The bike is a little on the small side for me, but that gives me a TON of under-crotch clearance for more muddy single-track adventures and slipping and sliding on icy/snowy roads in the winter without having to worry about the boys like I would be if I were riding a frame sized a little larger and fitting me better in those sloppy conditions. This is a 54cm and I usually like a 56-57 for regular riding.
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This adapter goes a little higher in my experience, but is a bit more expensive (and harder to find in silver)
That Dimension one I linked to has a long bolt. The bolt weighs more than the rest of the adapter (which is all alloy.) It's 8" long and is an M8 or something like that I think. It's well over 200g just for the bolt if I remember right.
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A better solution would be a Nashbar 1" carbon cyclocross fork with aluminum steerer.
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I had thought about that, but I'm not sure I could get the height I want/need out and off of that short head tube with a threadless headset and so much alloy steer tube sticking up. I think it would probably bend being that high under the spacers, even if the steer tube was long enough to get it up where I want it in this situation.
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So much win and learning in this thread. I was recently thinking about changing my drop bar convert to a threadless stem and possibly changing the fork.....looks like it would be easier than I expected!
Amesja....nice looking Trek! I have a early 90's 800, which seems like it would be the predecessor to yours. Love the way it rides, so glad I converted it too.
Amesja....nice looking Trek! I have a early 90's 800, which seems like it would be the predecessor to yours. Love the way it rides, so glad I converted it too.
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Whoa! That's a tall quill adapter. I wonder how much that has to weigh if it has a steel bolt that goes all the way down from the top to the quill wedge. Or does it have a shorter bolt sitting in a deep well?
That Dimension one I linked to has a long bolt. The bolt weighs more than the rest of the adapter (which is all alloy.) It's 8" long and is an M8 or something like that I think. It's well over 200g just for the bolt if I remember right.
That Dimension one I linked to has a long bolt. The bolt weighs more than the rest of the adapter (which is all alloy.) It's 8" long and is an M8 or something like that I think. It's well over 200g just for the bolt if I remember right.
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Heavy for back injury survivors like myself is a minor deterrent! I love how I can ride in the drops on flats and downhill and not change to the hoods. It's nice to have my hands near the high-power position on the brake levers most of the ride.
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I'm not complaining either. The last one I used it on was a drop bar conversion of a mtb that was too small for me into a bomb proof commuter that had front and rear racks and metal fenders and probably weighed 50 lbs if it weighed an ounce, so a few extra ounces for the stem wasn't a big deal. Got the bars up where I needed them.
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If I understand their usage, the adjustment up and down comes from the stem still having to be raised or lowered within the steerer like the stock 1 piece stems are correct? And the reach adjustment comes from swapping out that part of the stem?
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If I understand their usage, the adjustment up and down comes from the stem still having to be raised or lowered within the steerer like the stock 1 piece stems are correct? And the reach adjustment comes from swapping out that part of the stem?
Want to make sure I don't venture into an area and spend money only to find out it doesn't work
Want to make sure I don't venture into an area and spend money only to find out it doesn't work
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Yes, that is correct. It gives the up/down flexibility of a quill stem with the reach adjustment (assuming you're willing to drop the coin on different stems or can find 4 lengths of the same stem in a clearance bin for $8 like I did while trying to figure out fit) of multiple threadless stems (also the ease of swapping wrapped bars). As you go taller, you'll need a longer stem to compensate for the stem moving toward you and there are calculators out there to figure that out for you.
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I keep coming back to this... I'm definitely using this as a reference for my bar swap-out when I get some Soma Hwy Ones, as this set-up is spot-on for me. This may seem a little OCD but I find it very pleasing that what looks like the correct bar angle (nice flat transition to hoods; drops just off horizontal and pointing to rear brake bridge) coincides with the bar ends being perfectly parallel to the head tube. Lovely.
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I keep coming back to this... I'm definitely using this as a reference for my bar swap-out when I get some Soma Hwy Ones, as this set-up is spot-on for me. This may seem a little OCD but I find it very pleasing that what looks like the correct bar angle (nice flat transition to hoods; drops just off horizontal and pointing to rear brake bridge) coincides with the bar ends being perfectly parallel to the head tube. Lovely.
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Quite the opposite. The drop is so shallow and the bend so sharp as compared to classic bend drops that I came to hate them. The reach is virtually non-existent. I've tried the Hwy 1 and the Ritchey Classic Curve (not at all classic) and decided modern compact bars are not for me. I need more real estate and deeper drops. Compact bars are designed for riders who ride almost exclusively on the hoods. I want a more rounded hook. I put the Deda Newton Deep on my modern bike and it's better, but I still prefer the feel of a randonneur bend or classic shape like the B115.
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