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Old 05-18-16, 08:19 AM
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Mid 80's Ciocc SLX with 9 speed Chorus. Not sure about the white cables yet. I usually just use black.


I think when the bike has white panels or white lettering - the white cables look classy... I like it!
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Found a Shogun 300 on CL for cheap, looked like it hadn't been ridden.

Stripped it down

Put on road bits from my wife's old bike, new tektros (before that stopping was interesting...)

I am having so much fun on gravel and dirt, kinda makes me mad I waited so long to do something like this. Tange 900 frame, 25lb as pictured.
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Originally Posted by droppedandlost
Found a Shogun 300 on CR for cheap, looked like it hadn't been ridden.

I am having so much fun on gravel and dirt, kinda makes me mad I waited so long to do something like this. Tange 900 frame, 25lb as pictured.
Terrific end result
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Great work on the Shogun. I like the way you've made use of the tyre clearance and turned it into a gravel grinder!

are they Tektro long-drop brakes? Do you like them?
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Not quite vintage, but a bit old. 1994 Litespeed Tachyon (some doofus put the Saber decal on incorrectly). It's a TT frame that I put road kit on. 11 speed Ultegra and a Wound Up carbon fork. Rides very nicely.





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Just rebuilt this old Merckx frame with Athena 11 everything except for the Record headset and hubs. I'm loving it!

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Wow thats sweet!
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Just rebuilt this old Merckx frame with Athena 11 everything except for the Record headset and hubs. I'm loving it!

Love everything about this bike! But if it were mine I would flip the stem over and loose some of the spacers. YMMV
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Love everything about this bike! But if it were mine I would flip the stem over and loose some of the spacers. YMMV
If I were to build it to be more aesthetically pleasing than comfortable, I would too. Unfortunately I'm not that flexible and I want to enjoy riding this bike more than looking at it. When I look at the picture though, I figure I need to start yoga. Lol
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Hello Leshie,
Nice to hear about your Simpatico. So few Ferraroli road frames even had model names in the first place, and since the graphics were normally applied over clear coat, even fewer still have them.
Can you share pictures with me? Since moving to Switzerland seven years ago, about an hour from the original home of Ferraroli in La Chaux-de-Fonds, I have bought, restored, sold and kept quite a few.
I am working on a registry of Ferrarolis, so if you could share a serial number with me along with pictures, that would be even better. I suspect that there should only be one serial number stamped into the bottom bracket, with one digit oriented at 90 degrees to those following it.
If you search on "fascination ferraroli", you will find my long-neglected blog. Perhaps seeing your bike will spur me into posting more of mine.
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Welp, just fell in love with this bike all over again. Just goes to show it's never too late to teach an old dog new tricks!

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Originally Posted by Barchettaman
Great work on the Shogun. I like the way you've made use of the tyre clearance and turned it into a gravel grinder!

are they Tektro long-drop brakes? Do you like them?

Tekro R559, been excellent so far. I think I could fit 40mm tires on it before it would rub the frame at the chainstays.
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Originally Posted by droppedandlost
Tekro R559, been excellent so far. I think I could fit 40mm tires on it before it would rub the frame at the chainstays.
Thanks chap. Hope you continue to enjoy the bike. Congratulations on the build, once again!
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Old 06-13-16, 02:30 PM
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I have cruised through this whole thread. You guys are making me want to spend some money. I can't give my bike up until this fall though. Are there any blogs out there the go through the step by step process of upgrading an old steel frame to a modern groupset? I have a Early 90's sirrus triple. Are there big weight differences between this frame and something else? As far as the new BB goes what measurements do I need and do I need to pull it apart to get the measurements? What tools will I need to get it apart and the new one in(looking at the 5800 groupset)?
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Originally Posted by velofinds
Welp, just fell in love with this bike all over again. Just goes to show it's never too late to teach an old dog new tricks!

I love these rainbow frames, especially the white ones. What model is this? Nice tubing?
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Originally Posted by onesojourner
I have cruised through this whole thread. You guys are making me want to spend some money. I can't give my bike up until this fall though. Are there any blogs out there the go through the step by step process of upgrading an old steel frame to a modern groupset? I have a Early 90's sirrus triple. Are there big weight differences between this frame and something else? As far as the new BB goes what measurements do I need and do I need to pull it apart to get the measurements? What tools will I need to get it apart and the new one in(looking at the 5800 groupset)?
There are step by step instructions for how to remove and install each individual piece. I don't know if it's grouped together anywhere. For the most part, there is nothing special about installing new parts on a vintage frame. You just need to be sure it will fit and if it does the install is the same as it would be on any frame. The big thing is to get the sizes right. Your early 90's Sirrus should make that easy.

Before you start, are you comfortable changing the cables on your bike and adjusting the derailleurs? This is relatively easy, but if you haven't done it there can be a bit of a learning curve. Modern 11-speed drivetrains require a good bit of precision.

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-The 5800 groupset has different cable pull for the brakes than old Shimano groups did, so you'll need the new brakes too.
-You'll need a new rear wheel that can take an 11-speed road cassette. You can't use even 10-speed wheels with 11-speed drivetrains.
-Check the rear spacing on your bike. It's probably 130mm. That's what you want. If it were 126mm you could probably still fit a 130mm wheel without much trouble.
-Check the reach on your brakes. The 5800-series brakes max out at 49mm. If you need more than that, you'd have a minor incompatibility using long reach brakes which expect less cable pull.
-5800 lever may fit awkwardly on your handlebar depending on how it is curved. It can be made to work, but rounder bars are less than ideal for modern STI levers.
-You almost certainly have a standard threaded BSA bottom bracket. That's perfect for Shimano cranks and bottom brackets. Just steer clear of BB30 and similar stuff.

Tools you'll need:

long handled 5mm hex wrench
6mm hex wrench
cable cutter
square taper crank puller -- Park CCP-22C or similar
bottom bracket removal tools -- Park BBT22 or similar if you have a cartridge bottom bracket, otherwise pin spanner and fixed cup wrench
bottom bracket installation tool -- Park BBT59 or similar
cassette lockring tool -- I highly recommend the Abbey Tools Crombie, but a Park FR-5C will do
a chain tool -- A new chain tool is recommended for 11-speed chains and it will work with older chains too

It's quite a bit if you don't have any of it. If you don't expect to do much with older cranksets, it may be worth paying an LBS to remove what you have rather than buy the tools. Alternatively, you could probably use your current crankset with the new 105 stuff.
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Originally Posted by droppedandlost
Found a Shogun 300 on CL for cheap, looked like it hadn't been ridden.

Stripped it down

Put on road bits from my wife's old bike, new tektros (before that stopping was interesting...)

I am having so much fun on gravel and dirt, kinda makes me mad I waited so long to do something like this. Tange 900 frame, 25lb as pictured.
Normally high-rise stems look silly to me, but for some reason it looks really nice on that bike.
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Originally Posted by tricky
I love these rainbow frames, especially the white ones. What model is this? Nice tubing?
This is a PSN-10, also known as the Mont-Cenis. It's built up with Super Vitus 980, which is nice tubing. It has a lively, springy feel, which I find to be a lot of fun to ride.
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Normally high-rise stems look silly to me, but for some reason it looks really nice on that bike.
Yeah, I already had the stem. Otherwise I would lift the adapter up and get one with a bit less rise. I'm quite pleased with the result though.
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the frame is a no name brand, the only decal is "Sirocco Special", so I didn't spend too much effort upon building this e.g. too lazy to repaint
but I love riding the heck out of this bike

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Finally finished converting to a 9spd veloce drivetrain (minus the crankset which is dura-ace 7700). Learned my first campy lesson, sloppy shifting can often mean a cracked g spring carrier.

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Too lazy to repaint? Why would you want to repaint that? I don't know if it is patina or the original idea, but very cool looking either way! That crank has kind of a bronze tint to it.

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the frame is a no name brand, the only decal is "Sirocco Special", so I didn't spend too much effort upon building this e.g. too lazy to repaint
but I love riding the heck out of this bike
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That's beautiful.
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