Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
12-31-21 | 08:30 PM
#8076
(rhymes with spook)
Joined: Aug 2009
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From: Winslow, AR
Bikes: '83 univega gran turismo x2, '85 schwinn super le tour,'89 miyata triple cross, '91 GT tequesta, '90 yokota grizzly peak, '94 GT backwoods, '95'ish scott tampico, '98 bonty privateer, '93 mongoose crossway 625, '98 parkpre ariel, 2k'ish giant fcr3
01-29-22 | 05:15 PM
#8077
Newbie
Joined: Aug 2021
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From: US Gulf Coast
Bikes: 1984 Miyata 710 resto-modded to 1x11 townie, 1987 Bianchi Brava resto-modded to 1x11 fitness/events
This was my old triathlon/racing bike – a 1984 Miyata 710. I pulled it out of the garage rafters last spring and converted it to a 2x7 with R2000 Claris derailleurs and brakes, indexed DT shifters and an old 1055 105 crankset.
I put in about 1000 miles – it ran great, but I couldn’t leave well enough alone, and now it’s 2x11 running R7000 105. Here are the rest of my build notes:
Original frame, front fork and seat post.
Cold set frame to 130 mm.
Frame/forks powdercoated. Velocals match originals.
Grand Cru headset, Nitto stem and bars.
Shimano R7000 (105) brakes, mechs, shifters, and hubs
Velocity A23 rims, DT Swiss Champion spokes, Conty Grand Prix 25c
11-34 Cassette, 52/36 Crankset, BBR60 BB
Brooks C17 saddle
Shimano EH500 pedals
It rides smooth, fast and quiet.
edited: better pics
I put in about 1000 miles – it ran great, but I couldn’t leave well enough alone, and now it’s 2x11 running R7000 105. Here are the rest of my build notes:
Original frame, front fork and seat post.
Cold set frame to 130 mm.
Frame/forks powdercoated. Velocals match originals.
Grand Cru headset, Nitto stem and bars.
Shimano R7000 (105) brakes, mechs, shifters, and hubs
Velocity A23 rims, DT Swiss Champion spokes, Conty Grand Prix 25c
11-34 Cassette, 52/36 Crankset, BBR60 BB
Brooks C17 saddle
Shimano EH500 pedals
It rides smooth, fast and quiet.
edited: better pics
Last edited by Prunesquallor; 01-30-22 at 11:32 AM.
02-27-22 | 08:39 PM
#8081
Banned.
Joined: Jan 2022
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25-year old bike deserved an upgrade.:
Found the bike in Nashville TN:
Campagnolo 9-sp triple and a Kestrel EMS fork, FIR rims laced to a Chorus rear, unk front. Quill stem and alloy bars, post, Turbo saddle. It rode, well, not well. Well over 20 lbs, and dull.
An attempt at SRAM Red 2x10 failed due to the horrible Red FD and zero synergy. One metric with some serious climbing was not bad with a compact crank and 11-28, until I crested a climb and the FD locked me up by dumping the chain between rings.
A call to Lynskey resulted in a fork change, which needed a headset change, a stem change, bar change, you get it. Research indicated the Red FD was not good. I repurposed the Red shifters to gravel, tossed the FD, and sold the calipers. I’ll sell the RD.
Selling the frameset did not pan out; Ti is supposed to be hot, not hot enough, and a funny size didn’t help. A carbon frame failed and I had some parts. Meanwhile, a move to smaller frames was panning out on steel, while this languished.
Perhaps 3rd time’s the charm.
DA 9000/9100 mix, including cassette. Ultegra calipers, Stronglight cranks, liberal use of Chinese parts, Superteam wheels. I tried to keep color out of it, and forgot the chain, but at 15.84 lbs as you see it, I’ll splurge on a light chain.
Campagnolo 9-sp triple and a Kestrel EMS fork, FIR rims laced to a Chorus rear, unk front. Quill stem and alloy bars, post, Turbo saddle. It rode, well, not well. Well over 20 lbs, and dull.
An attempt at SRAM Red 2x10 failed due to the horrible Red FD and zero synergy. One metric with some serious climbing was not bad with a compact crank and 11-28, until I crested a climb and the FD locked me up by dumping the chain between rings.
A call to Lynskey resulted in a fork change, which needed a headset change, a stem change, bar change, you get it. Research indicated the Red FD was not good. I repurposed the Red shifters to gravel, tossed the FD, and sold the calipers. I’ll sell the RD.
Selling the frameset did not pan out; Ti is supposed to be hot, not hot enough, and a funny size didn’t help. A carbon frame failed and I had some parts. Meanwhile, a move to smaller frames was panning out on steel, while this languished.
Perhaps 3rd time’s the charm.
DA 9000/9100 mix, including cassette. Ultegra calipers, Stronglight cranks, liberal use of Chinese parts, Superteam wheels. I tried to keep color out of it, and forgot the chain, but at 15.84 lbs as you see it, I’ll splurge on a light chain.
Last edited by bamboobike4; 02-27-22 at 08:55 PM.
02-28-22 | 01:18 AM
#8082
Pedal to the medal
Joined: Sep 2012
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From: The Arsenal of Democracy
Bikes: 1991 Team Miyata Track, 1992 Lemond Alpe d'Huez, 19?? Schwinn High Serra, 1982 Trek 614, 198X Raleigh Alyeska
Didn't know Stronglight was still in business, lovely crank attached to a lovely bicycle!
02-28-22 | 05:40 AM
#8083
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I’m not sure when this model was made. Super light, originally with 7075 rings. I had a 130BCD version years ago and when I saw a 110BCD model, jumped on it. It uses an ISIS bottom bracket, which Omni Racer sells in a lightweight carbon/Ti model; very light combo.
Stronglight made a newer version, stupid light carbon crankset, but got caught up in the BB quagmire went nowhere.
They still make rings, and are the only source I’ve found for affordable replacements for 8000/9000/9100 that match up decently.
03-24-22 | 12:44 AM
#8087
Vintage KC
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 13
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From: KCMO
Bikes: Schwinn Paramount x3 (thanks jim) Albert Eisentraut, Colnago Master Piu(must sell), Cannondale x3 one is a tandem, Alanex, Volae Club, Azub Ti-Fly 26, Schwinn Madison Track bike, Schwinn Sprint(must sell) '61 Raleigh Gran Sport(must sell) Giant mtb,
03-24-22 | 12:46 AM
#8088
Vintage KC
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 13
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From: KCMO
Bikes: Schwinn Paramount x3 (thanks jim) Albert Eisentraut, Colnago Master Piu(must sell), Cannondale x3 one is a tandem, Alanex, Volae Club, Azub Ti-Fly 26, Schwinn Madison Track bike, Schwinn Sprint(must sell) '61 Raleigh Gran Sport(must sell) Giant mtb,
I laced modern rims onto my high flange campy hubs on my 72 paramount and 70 paramount. Upgraded the rife quality of both.
08-21-22 | 07:42 PM
#8091
Keefusb
Joined: Jan 2021
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From: Ashland, VA
Bikes: 60cm 1992 Paramount, 60cm 1995 Cannondale R900 (son's bike), 52cm 1998 Cannondale R300 CAAD2 (daughter-in-law's bike), 1994 Cannondale H300 (mine), 1994 Cannondale H300 Killer V (wife's bike), 60cm 1989 Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra SLX
Needs no introduction.
08-22-22 | 09:37 AM
#8092
Keefusb
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 223
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From: Ashland, VA
Bikes: 60cm 1992 Paramount, 60cm 1995 Cannondale R900 (son's bike), 52cm 1998 Cannondale R300 CAAD2 (daughter-in-law's bike), 1994 Cannondale H300 (mine), 1994 Cannondale H300 Killer V (wife's bike), 60cm 1989 Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra SLX
I really like the Dura Ace 7700 brifters, and I also dig the DA 7800 brakes, and the DA 7800 outer chainrings. DA 7800 calipers are the best Shimano rim brakes ever.
08-22-22 | 10:21 AM
#8093
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From: Snohomish, WA.
1989 Sr series Cannondale. Drivetrain is pretty much 7700(exception being 7402 front derailleur). Brakes and headset are Mavic.
I Will note that in my limited experience with integrated shifters, these 7700 levers are some of the nicest shifting levers out there. I like the chunkier Campagnolo 8 and 10 speed stuff also, but these Dura Ace pieces are more like a nice watch movement(if that makes any sense).
I Will note that in my limited experience with integrated shifters, these 7700 levers are some of the nicest shifting levers out there. I like the chunkier Campagnolo 8 and 10 speed stuff also, but these Dura Ace pieces are more like a nice watch movement(if that makes any sense).
Last edited by Roger M; 08-22-22 at 10:28 AM.
08-29-22 | 11:40 AM
#8095
Keefusb
Joined: Jan 2021
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From: Ashland, VA
Bikes: 60cm 1992 Paramount, 60cm 1995 Cannondale R900 (son's bike), 52cm 1998 Cannondale R300 CAAD2 (daughter-in-law's bike), 1994 Cannondale H300 (mine), 1994 Cannondale H300 Killer V (wife's bike), 60cm 1989 Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra SLX
I do wish my Corsa Extra had the cable guides on the head tube and the internal rear brake cable routing...
09-09-22 | 10:48 AM
#8096
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Have been loving this thread for a while now. Here's my work in progress:
Tried out the TRP levers and just couldn't get comfortable on them. Not to mention they are ugly as sin, gnarled and misshapen in every dimension of space and time. And while I loved the style of the old huret downtube shifters, I got a good deal on some campagnolo ergopowers. So I caved, and down the rabbit hole I've gone.. Berthoud saddle was my latest acquisition. B17 imperial was very comfy out of the box, but almost too much so for a leather saddle. Great for upright riding, but for me a bit of a perineum-prodder if you want to lean forward much. Anyway, I'm happy with the form, not sure about the colors..what do you guys think about some black on the seatpost and stem? Or should I keep those as shiny bits?
Tried out the TRP levers and just couldn't get comfortable on them. Not to mention they are ugly as sin, gnarled and misshapen in every dimension of space and time. And while I loved the style of the old huret downtube shifters, I got a good deal on some campagnolo ergopowers. So I caved, and down the rabbit hole I've gone.. Berthoud saddle was my latest acquisition. B17 imperial was very comfy out of the box, but almost too much so for a leather saddle. Great for upright riding, but for me a bit of a perineum-prodder if you want to lean forward much. Anyway, I'm happy with the form, not sure about the colors..what do you guys think about some black on the seatpost and stem? Or should I keep those as shiny bits?
09-09-22 | 11:00 AM
#8097
Keefusb
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 223
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From: Ashland, VA
Bikes: 60cm 1992 Paramount, 60cm 1995 Cannondale R900 (son's bike), 52cm 1998 Cannondale R300 CAAD2 (daughter-in-law's bike), 1994 Cannondale H300 (mine), 1994 Cannondale H300 Killer V (wife's bike), 60cm 1989 Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra SLX
Go for the black seat post and stem, it looks kewl!
09-09-22 | 12:59 PM
#8098
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Joined: Jun 2018
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From: London, UK
Bikes: Yes, probably too many but still have a roving eye...
I love the combination of old steel or ti frames with more modern running gear, and all but one of my road bikes are set up this way. Here's an update of my bikes equipped with modern STI's, all 10 speed apart from the Somec that is 8 speed.
And today I have just updated my multicoloured Simoncini, now with new crank and chainring combo, new Pirelli tyres, and new Campag seat post.
And today I have just updated my multicoloured Simoncini, now with new crank and chainring combo, new Pirelli tyres, and new Campag seat post.
09-09-22 | 06:31 PM
#8099
Master Parts Rearranger
Joined: Mar 2015
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From: Portlandia's Kuiper Belt, OR
Bikes: 1987 Woodrup Competition - 2025 Trek Checkpoint SL 6 Gen 3 - 1987 Lotus Legend - 2024 Trek Emonda ALR Rim Brake - 1980 Trek 510 - 1988 Cannondale SR500 - 1985 Trek 670 - 1982 Trek 730
That saddle to brake lever/hood drop is off the charts. Glad you like it and can ride it like that comfortably.
09-10-22 | 08:48 AM
#8100
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From: London, UK
Bikes: Yes, probably too many but still have a roving eye...
RiddleOfSteel 
the last 2 frames are 57cm which is as small a frame as I ride, the others there are in the 59-61 range.
The Simoncin I'd just fitted a new seat post and hadn't ridden yet, but did today and saddle came down a bit, but there's still a fair bit of drop. I also I think the view from above I did to show the different colours on the bar tape makes it look worse than it is, for example its exactly the same height in both these pics, taken after the adjustments, but looks more extreme on the first pic.
I turn 50 next month but am still charging around like a young un doing big miles, and that Simoncini has had a lot of use as my work bike over recent years. I figure over the coming decades I can raise the stem a fair bit if my back gives out, so I've got a while yet on those 2 small ones I hope
the last 2 frames are 57cm which is as small a frame as I ride, the others there are in the 59-61 range. The Simoncin I'd just fitted a new seat post and hadn't ridden yet, but did today and saddle came down a bit, but there's still a fair bit of drop. I also I think the view from above I did to show the different colours on the bar tape makes it look worse than it is, for example its exactly the same height in both these pics, taken after the adjustments, but looks more extreme on the first pic.
I turn 50 next month but am still charging around like a young un doing big miles, and that Simoncini has had a lot of use as my work bike over recent years. I figure over the coming decades I can raise the stem a fair bit if my back gives out, so I've got a while yet on those 2 small ones I hope