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neamatoad 06-14-17 10:51 PM

new (to me) vitus, new sram force group.
http://i.imgur.com/Xqrmulu.jpg

delicious 06-14-17 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by TenGrainBread (Post 19647963)
Recent cockpit updates to the '94 Litespeed. Weighs in at 17lb 5oz with the SPDs.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4241/3...f831b81a_b.jpg

This came together beautifully :thumb:

bfuser10291295 06-15-17 12:03 AM

Nicely built Vitus [MENTION=310799]neamatoad[/MENTION]

RiddleOfSteel 06-15-17 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by neamatoad (Post 19654444)
new (to me) vitus, new sram force group.
http://i.imgur.com/Xqrmulu.jpg

Very nicely done! Enjoying the various satin tones, as well as modern brifters on classic (Cinelli?) bars. Do like. :thumb:

ratfink76 06-15-17 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by malcala622 (Post 19654502)
Nicely built Vitus [MENTION=310799]neamatoad[/MENTION]

I second that motion!!

noglider 06-15-17 09:38 AM

[MENTION=328325]kylarr[/MENTION], really nice work. I invite you to publish that on instructables!

kylarr 06-15-17 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 19655177)
[MENTION=328325]kylarr[/MENTION], really nice work. I invite you to publish that on instructables!

Thanks noglider! I'll look in to this instructables thing. I'm all for bringing accurate tire pressure to the masses. unfortunately, I didnt take any pictures of the process so I'll have to take it apart and build it again. Could be a minute.

Falcon3 06-15-17 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by billytwosheds (Post 19654289)
Finally getting the Team Fuji details ironed out. Shimano 600 tricolor throughout, and 9spd Shimano brifters.

The rear derailleur isn't as responsive as I'd like, but otherwise this is a quick machine.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4239/3...a1b3d038_z.jpg

Top tubes bent.
;)

Beautiful bike. A team fuji is on my keeper list, just haven't found one in the right size.

PhilPub 06-17-17 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by neamatoad (Post 19654444)
new (to me) vitus, new sram force group.

Superb!

Kevindale 06-17-17 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Clarkrw3 (Post 19651215)
Obviously there is no right or wrong way to do a RetroMod restoration. I really have loved looking through all the pages of this thread and seeing all the amazing examples that have been built. While the modern working, and retro looking bikes are definitely eye candy, I'm not sure I want the drawbacks.

I am heading into restoring my old Bob Jackson 753. I won many races on this bike in the early 90's and have had it stored for 20+ years. Here are the goals I have. I want to jump on this bike and have it feel and work just like a modern bike other than frame. I think this means modern component group, modern bar and stem, and modern wheels.

Anyone have any wisdom or thoughts on this route or goal?

I think it's a great goal, especially if this bike is just sitting around and you're not interested in riding it in it's vintage state. I'd recommend a few things. One, put whatever you take off in a box and keep it so that if you sell the bike later you can sell it in it's vintage race-winning form (which would be attractive to a lot of people). You might need to sell off the vintage pieces to pay for the new, but that would be a bit of a shame in my opinion.

If you want to get specific ideas, I suggest first being a little more specific in your goals. Do you ride lots of hills? What modern components do you use and favor (if any)? Are you now more oriented to comfort, or touring, or still a go-fast guy? And do you prefer chrome/silver/more traditional looking components? Love or hate Shimano/Campy/etc.?

Also, if you can post images of your bike, you will definitely get more input. You can either post 9 more times (go to the introduce-yourself thread or just make a bunch of quick comments on other threads) or put some photos of the Bob Jackson on a photo-hosting site like Flickr or Imgur, and post the link here (post without the "htttp://" part and we'll fill that in, since you can't post links until you have 10 posts).

And welcome.

velomateo 06-17-17 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by pcb (Post 19616928)
'83 DiNucci, first build, 1x11. There's more info on this frameset in the "Quality without quantity" and "Show your American build only" threads. I started building it with Honjos, but ran into the usual fender issues and ran out of patience/gas. I also wanted to try it with fatter tires first (33mm here), so the Honjos will have to wait. Maybe ride tomorrow if the weather and my energy cooperate.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4246/3...5c41e666_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4244/3...4b475360_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4273/3...1db8f3af_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4252/3...bbe2284c_h.jpg

This is a very nice update to this frame. Quality pics too.

pcb 06-17-17 10:19 PM

Thanks! Here she is out in the wild:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4272/3...29e6b65d_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4228/3...c0c823dd_b.jpg


Originally Posted by velomateo (Post 19659409)
This is a very nice update to this frame. Quality pics too.


gaucho777 06-18-17 12:49 AM

[MENTION=290087]pcb[/MENTION], you had me at '83 DiNucci. :love:

PhilPub 06-19-17 04:44 AM

A 30th anniversary post! I took my Ron Cooper out for its first ride, this weekend in 1987. So yesterday I celebrated with a 72 mile ride on the warmest day of the year so far here in Blighty. Absolutely lovely, and the Ron rides better than ever. And I've barely put on weight in that time, probably because the hair is less bouffant. :lol:

https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.n...33&oe=59CC7686

https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.n...f9&oe=59DA1CE1

^ '80s steel loveliness also supplied by Aaron's matching Ron Cooper, and Len's TJ Quick.

Rocket-Sauce 06-19-17 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Clarkrw3 (Post 19651215)
Obviously there is no right or wrong way to do a RetroMod restoration. I really have loved looking through all the pages of this thread and seeing all the amazing examples that have been built. While the modern working, and retro looking bikes are definitely eye candy, I'm not sure I want the drawbacks.

I am heading into restoring my old Bob Jackson 753. I won many races on this bike in the early 90's and have had it stored for 20+ years. Here are the goals I have. I want to jump on this bike and have it feel and work just like a modern bike other than frame. I think this means modern component group, modern bar and stem, and modern wheels.

Anyone have any wisdom or thoughts on this route or goal?

Need more info here. What type of riding? Budget? Campy- or Shimano-phile?

For pure looks (and awesome performance too), I'd go Silver Campy Potenza from one of the UK vendors.
Polished silver H Plus Son TB14s and silver 105 hubs and cassette (11 speed is cross compatible)

For pure performance and bang-for-your-buck, I'd go with 105 in black (I don't care for the silver 105) and same wheels in black.

Done.

Clarkrw3 06-19-17 11:21 AM

This is not mine but exactly like the one I will be restoring.https://files.bikeindex.org/uploads/...kson_753_1.JPG






Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce (Post 19662369)
Need more info here. What type of riding? Budget? Campy- or Shimano-phile?

For pure looks (and awesome performance too), I'd go Silver Campy Potenza from one of the UK vendors.
Polished silver H Plus Son TB14s and silver 105 hubs and cassette (11 speed is cross compatible)

For pure performance and bang-for-your-buck, I'd go with 105 in black (I don't care for the silver 105) and same wheels in black.

Done.

I have actually never used Campy before which makes me a little apprehensive to go with their lower level equipment.


Originally Posted by Kevindale (Post 19659004)
I think it's a great goal, especially if this bike is just sitting around and you're not interested in riding it in it's vintage state. I'd recommend a few things. One, put whatever you take off in a box and keep it so that if you sell the bike later you can sell it in it's vintage race-winning form (which would be attractive to a lot of people). You might need to sell off the vintage pieces to pay for the new, but that would be a bit of a shame in my opinion.

If you want to get specific ideas, I suggest first being a little more specific in your goals. Do you ride lots of hills? What modern components do you use and favor (if any)? Are you now more oriented to comfort, or touring, or still a go-fast guy? And do you prefer chrome/silver/more traditional looking components? Love or hate Shimano/Campy/etc.?

Also, if you can post images of your bike, you will definitely get more input. You can either post 9 more times (go to the introduce-yourself thread or just make a bunch of quick comments on other threads) or put some photos of the Bob Jackson on a photo-hosting site like Flickr or Imgur, and post the link here (post without the "htttp://" part and we'll fill that in, since you can't post links until you have 10 posts).

And welcome.

Great idea in keeping the old equipment! It's Suntour Superbe Pro so not sure how valuable it is.

I do all sorts of riding, while I'm not a 'climber' 6'4" and 168lbs I do a fare amount of it and will probably put in 200-250k this year. My current bike is a S-Works Venge with Sram Red 22, so I guess that makes me a go-fast sort of guy. As I have researched and looked about I have settled on wanting this bike to fit/feel like my current bike just with a steal frame. I think this leads me to modern bar's stem etc. Which as I go down the rabbit hole makes me think a lot about just make this a blacked out affair with some 35mm carbon wheels. Maybe that's sacrilege, but my thought is if you are going to try and modernize a bike you might as well go all the way.


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 19652453)
That's what this thread is all about. I like modern drivetrains, and I like old frames, and it isn't usually too much work to put them together. I'm about to switch my last old drivetrain out to modern.

Thanks

beicster 06-19-17 06:00 PM

I just bought a set of 8 speed brifters from Noglider and will be trying my first bike with brifters. I always preferred bar end or down tube shifters but I have been brifter curious for a while. I plan to add them to this Trek. Looking forward to giving them a try.

[IMG]https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4200/3...9db6a850_b.jpgimage by Andy Beichler, on Flickr[/IMG]

PhilPub 06-20-17 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by Clarkrw3 (Post 19663052)
My current bike is a S-Works Venge with Sram Red 22, so I guess that makes me a go-fast sort of guy. As I have researched and looked about I have settled on wanting this bike to fit/feel like my current bike just with a steal frame. I think this leads me to modern bar's stem etc. Which as I go down the rabbit hole makes me think a lot about just make this a blacked out affair with some 35mm carbon wheels. Maybe that's sacrilege, but my thought is if you are going to try and modernize a bike you might as well go all the way.

See my Ron Cooper above; I think there's a middle ground of gaining most, if not all, of the benefits of a full modern racing machine, whilst still being sympathetic to the classic aesthetic. I've got a full SRAM Force 10spd group set, but kept the steel fork, and fitted compact bars to the quill stem (Nitto M106/Dynamic). Silver spokes and hubs - and old-school Campag QR skewers - matched to hand built low-profile rims keep things looking sort of classic.

If it was me, I'd probably fit it out with a SRAM group, with the same or similar contact points you're used to, so that it feels familiar enough to enjoy riding. No point in trying to replicate your modern bike completely, cos otherwise you might as well just ride that and hang the steel bike on the wall.

PhilPub 06-20-17 03:11 AM

...on the other hand, I've seen some pretty bada$$ neo-retro builds with deep carbon rims as well. :thumb:

ratfink76 06-20-17 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by beicster (Post 19664022)
I just bought a set of 8 speed brifters from Noglider and will be trying my first bike with brifters. I always preferred bar end or down tube shifters but I have been brifter curious for a while. I plan to add them to this Trek. Looking forward to giving them a try.

[IMG]https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4200/3...9db6a850_b.jpgimage by Andy Beichler, on Flickr[/IMG]

Looking forward to seeing this one!!

bfuser10291295 06-20-17 09:31 AM

Awesome pic [MENTION=298903]PhilPub[/MENTION].

wrk101 06-20-17 01:28 PM

1987 Panasonic DX6000. Came with a mix of Sprint, Tri-color, and some odds and ends, plus rust.

Very similar frame to my 1987 Prologue (also made by Panasonic).

Rebuilt with triple-color 8 speed STI, my favorite go to road group.

Lucked out and had a bottle cage in the bin that was pretty close to a perfect match color wise.

[IMG]https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4196/3...af3a4447_o.jpgfullsizeoutput_8f6 by bill, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4198/3...b4b0f2ff_o.jpgfullsizeoutput_8f7 by bill, on Flickr[/IMG]

Oldguyonoldbike 06-23-17 08:39 AM

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I built this up with my brother three years ago while he was going through some very rough chemotherapy. His first good road bike had been a Basso and while he was in the hospital I found this NOS 1992 Loto. Between his stints in the hospital we built it up with an 11 speed Athena groupset, and some Mavic Open Pro rims laced to Miche race hubs. The build served its purpose in that it gave him something to do and something to look forward to. He only rode it a few times, and never really got back into cycling. He passed away three weeks ago, so this is a parting shot. His kids wanted me to have it, but it is way too big for me. I'm giving it to a mutual friend who will appreciate it.

bfuser10291295 06-23-17 08:58 AM

[MENTION=387990]Oldguyonoldbike[/MENTION] Sorry you lost your brother. I hope the time he spent with you building up the bike kept his spirits up.

My 40 mile ride this weekend will be for your brother.

Oldguyonoldbike 06-23-17 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by malcala622 (Post 19672231)
My 40 mile ride this weekend will be for your brother.

Thanks.


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