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cb400bill 12-29-10 10:40 AM

How did I miss this last week? Congrats! I can't wait to see it in person.


Originally Posted by Chicago Al (Post 11965862)
I would not have expected to post in this thread for a long while, as I am still getting the hang of this whole shifting thing. :o

But up this popped on CL last weekend and I had to jump on it. (It would be even more exciting with its original full Sante setup, but that was long gone.)

1988 Miyata 1200 (Twelve Hundred)

Sora brifters, Sora FD, Tiagra RD with 9 sp cassette.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5128/...737f70ed_z.jpg


tztag 12-29-10 06:57 PM

Here's the drive side pic:

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/IMG_0268.jpg

hhliao 12-29-10 07:41 PM

This is my recent build, a 1997 Lemond Alpe D'Huez. It is definitely not vintage, maybe only borderline classic. I bought it as a frameset and have finally gotten it to a rideable condition. It is probably one-size too small for me, but it was the right color at the right price. Luckily, Lemond bikes usually have longer top tubes, so I am not feeling too cramped on it.

I set it up as an half-and-half: downtube front friction shifter with a 10-speed brifter shifting the rear. I really like the infinite adjustability on the front, no chain rub ever.

Here are the part lists:
Frame/fork: 1997 Lemond Alpe D'Huez (double butted chromoly from True Temper)
Brake lever: Shimano RX100 (front)
Brake calipers: DA 7400 (rear), Tektro (front:waiting for the new pads for the matching DA front caliper)
Shifter: DA 7700 downtube shifter (front), Sram Rival Double-Tap brake/shift lever (rear)
Crankset: Shimano 600 Tricolor 52-42
Cassette: Sram PG-1070 11-26t
Wheelset: Mavic Cosmos
Derailleur: Shimano 105 (front), Sram Rival (rear)
Stem: Nitto Technomic 12 cm
Handlebar: Deda 215 shallow drop
Saddle: Selle Italia SLK
Seat post: No name post that I poshlied
Pedals: Performance Bike branded platform pedals with PowerGrip straps

There are some issues/modification that I plan to work on. The 600 series crankset was from the early 90s and was intended for 7 speed (I think). Due to the narrow 10-speed chain, there were a number of times that the chain got caught between the two chainrings when down-shifting the front. Has anyone had the same problem when using an old crank with a 10 speed chain?
I also want to get rid of the RX100 lever and get a matching Sram brake lever. I really like the feel of the Sram lever. I think it is the most comfortable among the brifters that I've tried.

I am excited to share this with the C&V crowd and welcome any feedback and critique!

Here are some pics:
(more at http://picasaweb.google.com/11395134...mondAlpeDHuez#)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_oNEuUkDZvvM/TR...0/DSCN2374.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_oNEuUkDZvvM/TR...0/DSCN2388.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_oNEuUkDZvvM/TR...0/DSCN2382.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_oNEuUkDZvvM/TR...0/DSCN2376.JPG

longbeachgary 12-29-10 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by conbon (Post 11945479)
Looked through all 47 pages, pretty sure this is the first Giordana posted in this thread...

My new bike, been listed on my local CL for almost a month, finally saved my lunch money long enough to get the bike of my dreams. Its my size, my favorite color, WAYYYYYYYY stiffer than that Reynolds 631 trek I had thanks to some nice Columbus Cromor tubing, solid components (even if they aren't italian), and I got it for what I consider a good deal.

The Beast!
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/IMGP2977.jpg

IDk what its called, but where its indented then filled with paint, also on the brake bridge and the fork crown, really classy touch.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/IMGP2981.jpg

Obnoxiously bright green :D
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/IMGP2982.jpg

Cromor, may no be your SLX or whatever, but still really nice tubing
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/IMGP2983.jpg

Hard to tell, but bladed spokes and green alloy nipples, nice touch
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/IMGP2984.jpg

Again, hard to tell from crappy lighting, but black has a really cool metal flake shimmer too it, haven't seen it on a sunny day yet :(
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/IMGP2985.jpg

Chrome chainstay and droupouts that say "Giordana", oooh shinny things!
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/IMGP2979.jpg

-Connor

Sweet. You need to post it in the "post your green bike" thread.

Viperplayer5220 01-08-11 10:42 PM

Here is my 1988 Raleigh Technium 400 with a few upgrades I just finished: RSX shifters, new chain, freewheel, cables, and rear derailleur (because it shifts quicker than the light action derailleur that was on there)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...f/100_1592.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...f/100_1593.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...f/100_1594.jpg

conbon 01-08-11 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by longbeachgary (Post 12000462)
Sweet. You need to post it in the "post your green bike" thread.

Talk to me goose, i'm gonna need a link for that...

-Connor

dundas 01-09-11 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 11968856)
The down tube cable stops will work, but you'd need the flat-back models. You may need a thick washer or two to make sure the stop clears the downtube. That would be the simplest option. Fairly bulky, but in line with the cable's intended path. The Suntour option listed for 14.99 would work just fine, as would the newer models I mentioned.

Can't wait to see it done.

An update on the piggy back shifter conversion: I got a pair of flat-back Dura Ace cable stops and attached them to the shifter bosses on each side of the piggy back bracket. Since they are the same width as the shifters, the cable follows the same path and clears the down tube just fine. I think it looks pretty clean. I'll post pics of the finished build when I figure out how to install everything properly (I just picked up a new 105 group from a guy who upgraded to Ultegra). Thanks again for the tips.

eerriicc 01-10-11 03:08 AM

88/89 Bianchi Strada LX with 9s Tiagra. I can't remember if I posted this one already.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4089/...99b75ab2_z.jpg
88/89 Bianchi Strada LX by Mr. Embrey, on Flickr[/QUOTE]

That's a nice looking Bianchi - I love the handlebars. I've been searching everywhere for a set of handlebars with a bend like that and a 26mm clamp - please tell me you're not using a threadless adapter!

danec99 01-10-11 10:57 AM

1987 Nishiki Tri-A Equipé
ST-2200 8 Speed Shifters/Ultegra 6500
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...9/IMG_3336.jpg

RobbieTunes 01-10-11 06:33 PM

^^ roccobike will like that ^^

nice bike

RobbieTunes 01-17-11 10:38 PM

Updated, couldn't resist posting. I apologize for the brazenry....

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...s/P1170454.jpg

thirdgenbird 01-17-11 10:42 PM

that is a beautiful frame!

and are those my old brake calipers and bottle cage?

bigbossman 01-17-11 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 12058138)
^^ roccobike will like that ^^

nice bike

It oughta be...... I built it. :D

CMC SanDiego 01-17-11 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by conbon (Post 11945479)
Looked through all 47 pages, pretty sure this is the first Giordana posted in this thread...

My new bike, been listed on my local CL for almost a month, finally saved my lunch money long enough to get the bike of my dreams. Its my size, my favorite color, WAYYYYYYYY stiffer than that Reynolds 631 trek I had thanks to some nice Columbus Cromor tubing, solid components (even if they aren't italian), and I got it for what I consider a good deal.
The Beast!
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/IMGP2977.jpg
-Connor

I thought I'd posted this one here before (maybe a different photo) but here's my Giordana XL Strada, made with excel tubing.
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/w...0/DSC00523.jpg
Its since got some new italian components (seatpost, stem, handlebars) and a Brooks saddle.

RobbieTunes 01-17-11 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgenbird (Post 12092701)
that is a beautiful frame!

and are those my old brake calipers and bottle cage?

Yep.
Calipers and cage-thirdgenbird
Pedals-txvintage
Rear wheel-wrk101
Cyclo-drrobwave
Wrap-KonAaronSnake
Orignal bike-facilitated by pastorbob
STI shifters are definitely from someone here, can't remember.
BB-23skidoo

I wanted a modern-looking bike that wouldn't give away it's age (1986)
I plan on taking it to NAHBS

thirdgenbird 01-17-11 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 12092785)
Yep.
Calipers and cage-thirdgenbird
Pedals-txvintage
Rear wheel-wrk101
Cyclo-drrobwave
Wrap-KonAaronSnake
Orignal bike-facilitated by pastorbob
STI shifters are definitely from someone here, can't remember.

I wanted a modern-looking bike that wouldn't give away it's age (1986)

very nicely done!

i dont remember if i told you, but the pump completely died a few months after i got it. one day it just completely quit sealing. a new leather wiper fixed her right up though.

it is displayed in my living room next to the tommasini. i dont think i will ever part with either of them.

RFC 01-17-11 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 12092685)
Updated, couldn't resist posting. I apologize for the brazenry....

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...s/P1170454.jpg

Robbie, most excellent!

buldogge 01-18-11 12:20 AM

Looks great Robbie...Very, um...bright. That is bound to brighten up a grey winter's day.

It looks very modern...those all black SRAM shifters would look right at home on it...or Campy of course (Veloce or CF, either way)!

What's the specs???


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 12092685)
Updated, couldn't resist posting. I apologize for the brazenry....

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...s/P1170454.jpg


RobbieTunes 01-18-11 09:32 AM

Thanks.
I actually though hard about the yellow version of the Microshift mini-group (FD/RD/Shifters),
and I hear you on the all-black STI's.
Specs:
1986 56cm 7000 Al frame, one of the first of the 7000 series to be TIG'd, Tange 6061 Al fork, Suntour Sprint headset.
OEM Sugino 26.8, seat post, painted the flutes and scale Selle San Marcos TriMatic Gel saddle. Elite Cuissi cage.
Nitto OEM stem, Nitto B115-420 bars, Fizik perforated wrap, Specialized Comp cyclometer.
105 9-sp STI's, mismatched caps painted silver. I couldn't get the Testor's yellow paint bottle open...
105 9-sp FD/RD/crankset new from Taiwan, dirt cheap. Used BB.
nashbar dual pivot calipers, and I ride it a lot, so it gets Kool Stop pads.
Mavic Cosmic Elite wheelset, Vredestein Fortezza Tri Comp tires 700x23
SRAM 12-23 cassette. Zefal bag from Walmart, along with the light.

Initial investment fairly high, $390 delivered. Offset by selling the group and wheels for $225.
Probably $600 in the bike when all is said and done, but well, it fits, it works, it's here.

-holiday76 01-19-11 07:25 AM

Awesome work Robbie. Love it!

THEJAPINO 01-19-11 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by eerriicc (Post 12054701)
That's a nice looking Bianchi - I love the handlebars. I've been searching everywhere for a set of handlebars with a bend like that and a 26mm clamp - please tell me you're not using a threadless adapter!

The only 26.0 bars I know of with that type of bend is Nitto M106 NEAT. I want some myself. We should send requests to v/o, soma, riv etc. to get some cheaper ones made.

http://http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/M106NAS-EX.jpg

stien 01-24-11 03:51 PM

I'm having a hard time with how STI's look on my Cinelli Giro d'Italia bars since they are so much less flat on the tops compared to my modern shallow drops. They look funny.

This just in: I got 7800/6600 parts for my Colnago!

Missing the crankset/bb and then we're off to the races.

bigbossman 01-24-11 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by stien (Post 12125340)
I'm having a hard time with how STI's look on my Cinelli Giro d'Italia bars since they are so much less flat on the tops compared to my modern shallow drops. They look funny.

Really? I think they're a perfect match - so much so, all of my bikes have modern Campagnolo ergo on 64 bars.

Unless...... do you mean Shimano STI? They look funny on anything. :D

Italuminium 01-24-11 06:13 PM

Nice ride! My Concorde is going to look a bit like that, with 9 speed daytona on a period correct cinelli cockpit.


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