Randonneur Bars
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Randonneur Bars
I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a randonneur style bar.
For a while I had a steel rando bar from a 70s Schwinn and it was the most comfortable bar I've used, however I foolishly left it on a bike that I sold. In addition to the flair and shallow drops, this bar was fairly narrow.
I'm looking for something similar for a century bike/country road rider that I'm building up. The nitto randonneur seems to be everywhere as does the noodle, does anyone know if either is comparable to the old schwinn bars?
Any thoughts on these from velo-orange: https://www.velo-orange.com/mogrfoha.html
Thanks!
For a while I had a steel rando bar from a 70s Schwinn and it was the most comfortable bar I've used, however I foolishly left it on a bike that I sold. In addition to the flair and shallow drops, this bar was fairly narrow.
I'm looking for something similar for a century bike/country road rider that I'm building up. The nitto randonneur seems to be everywhere as does the noodle, does anyone know if either is comparable to the old schwinn bars?
Any thoughts on these from velo-orange: https://www.velo-orange.com/mogrfoha.html
Thanks!
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I have a set of Nitto for my current build. They aren't quite as radical looking as the ones on the Velo orange site but I think they are going to be great. I like the fact that the drops kick out about 2 or 3 degrees. I'm going for a more upright positioning on this bike so thats going to be interesting.
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Old Schwinn Super Sports came with a decent set of alloy Rondo bars on them, if you can find one thats is
Ill keep an eye out
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Did you see the Origin bar in the November 16 Velo Orange Blog? I'm tempted to try them.
While you're there, check out the "stunning" yellow Carlton from December 4th!
While you're there, check out the "stunning" yellow Carlton from December 4th!
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Bikes: IRO Angus; Casati Gold Line; Redline 925; '72 Schwinn Olympic Paramount
The Nitto Noodle bars are the most comfortable bars I've ever ridden. There's a chance I still have my stock Super Sport handlebars at home, although I may have given 'em to PastorBob...
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Early 1970s Nishiki Competitions and Internationals came with randonneur bars.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Check out the ON ONE Midge bars. I really like mine.
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I had forgotten how comfortable they were!
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1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
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They come on most all lower half Schwinns in the 70's, stopping short of the Varsity I think. Continentals have them, at least every one I've ever seen. Theyre still my favorites.
That outward tilted shallow drop feels like it was made for my hands. I pick them up whenever possible. I may get the one's I've been glancing at in the flea market guy's junk box tomorrow.,,,,BD
That outward tilted shallow drop feels like it was made for my hands. I pick them up whenever possible. I may get the one's I've been glancing at in the flea market guy's junk box tomorrow.,,,,BD
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For me, the bars are tilted completely opposite to the natural position of my hands on the tops.
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I usually have my palm on the raised part, resting on the curve to the ramp, with my thumbs inside. Like on the hoods, but scooted back a few inches. I see what you mean though.,,,,BD
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I have a set of SR rando bars I'm saving for the born-again Miyata 712 project. Came off a Colombia mixte.
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#17
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Yes, I love the traditional classic Randonneur bend bars with their narrow shoulders, notable upward rise from the center, shallow drop and wide flare at the bottoms. I have several different ones, from several companies and various different nationalities. To be honest, they are my favorite style handlebar... period. Each to his own taste. If I see a bike with Randonneur bars, I would expect that I will feel quite comfortable riding it.
But, I will say that with their narrow shoulders, I would think these are not something you would want for a racing bike. They would also simply feel very unfamiliar to you if you are used to either the classic Cinelli bends or else any wide modern anatomical bend road bars. And, I also think they would definitely feel very odd if using STI/ERGO brake/shift levers, but I may be mistaken about this [I haven't tried it, yet].
Nitto 135... I think the Japanese had long ago distilled the essentials of the style and all the others I've seen amd which I own have elements very evident in this model - distict bottom flare, and narrowed corners, shallow drop. For these purposes I would lump most any of the specific vintage randonneur bars I own together with these since they are in current production and are certainly the most commonly available. They are beautifully finished and I would always feel comfortable riding on these.
Rivendell/Nitto Noodle #177 This is very different as you can see in the photo posted by Mariner Fan. These have wider corners and tops which are drawn back rather than upward from the center. Very little flare at the bottom. These would probably be best for anyone converting and retaining STI/ERGO levers, and these maintain a similar quite vertical orientation for those levers. I ride in the drops a lot, and I find these much less appealing for my riding than almost any other handlebars on the market. If [as perhaps only myself and the late Marco Pantani] you happen to climb in the drops, you would NOT like these at all! The corners, whenever I ride in the drops, are forever hitting against my forearms. This is odd since I tend to mount my handlebars higher than anyone else I know - close to level with the top of a saddle as possible. But this problem is increased because of the exaggerated backward bend of the top the wide corners and the lack of flare at bottom.
Many people obviously DO seem to like these, and they are available in more familiarly modern very wide widths. But, I'll offer a minority position here and state that I find them simply very uncomfortable. The corners actually slope downward from the center a bit at the corners which to me would even seem to be counter-productive to the stated intention of having the effect of "raising" the resting position when riding with hands at the tops of the bars by drawing them farther back (rather than up). Personally, I even seem to feel my hands sliding downward and outward in that position with any of my weight at all shifted forward. So, maybe these were intended for bikes with a short forward reach (or riders with long arms) and best for somehow "resting" in a very vertical position with your weight mainly on the saddle. I'd rather just use a NITTO B-114 or B-115 "Classic" model among any of the more conventional looking retro-styled bars.
The Velo-Orange Modolo bars look interesting. Modolo had always come up with very unique designs. I'd be very interested to hear someone's analysis of these from actual use on the road. They seem as if they might actually offer some of the advantages of a European "TREKKING" handlebar [or "butterfly" bar] but I can't quite figure them out. The wide flat top section certainly looks inviting.
Traditional Randonneur bars will look either beautiful to you... or simply very weird. They definitely stand out when you see an approaching bike with them mounted. Sure, this bike may just look like any low-end Schwinn from the 1960s, but I very much like that look, anyway.
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My brother has the Nitto bar on his Surly and a couple of my bikes came with them. I love the way they look but they are always waaaay too narrow for me. My 46cm Noodles are perfect for me, though.
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I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a randonneur style bar.
For a while I had a steel rando bar from a 70s Schwinn and it was the most comfortable bar I've used, however I foolishly left it on a bike that I sold. In addition to the flair and shallow drops, this bar was fairly narrow.
I'm looking for something similar for a century bike/country road rider that I'm building up. The nitto randonneur seems to be everywhere as does the noodle, does anyone know if either is comparable to the old schwinn bars?
Any thoughts on these from velo-orange: https://www.velo-orange.com/mogrfoha.html
Thanks!
For a while I had a steel rando bar from a 70s Schwinn and it was the most comfortable bar I've used, however I foolishly left it on a bike that I sold. In addition to the flair and shallow drops, this bar was fairly narrow.
I'm looking for something similar for a century bike/country road rider that I'm building up. The nitto randonneur seems to be everywhere as does the noodle, does anyone know if either is comparable to the old schwinn bars?
Any thoughts on these from velo-orange: https://www.velo-orange.com/mogrfoha.html
Thanks!
Road Fan
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I like the Nitto bars also but my favorite randonneur bar was made by Pivo, here is a pic of one on my Miyata. My Motobecane Grand Tour had a Beleri Randonneur bar that was fairly comfortable but I like the Pivo more, I think the curve of the drops on the Beleri is tighter and they didn't have much rise from the stem. I would get measurements but I sold the Moto Grand Tour last Summer. Don
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I had a pair when I built up my first good bike about 1972, but the racing crowd I took up with shamed me out of them shortly thereafter and I converted to Cinelli. I'm thinking of trying another set for the old Carlton I'm building now. Anyone know the bar size for an Ambrosio adjustable stem (my new favorite)?
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My old Ambrosio "Champion" stem is 26.0... And, my adjustable length 3-TTT (which is a dead ringer for the Ambrosio model) is that size too. - So, a bit smaller than Cinelli's 26.4 ... and a bit larger than standard British or US 25.4 (1 inch)... significantly larger that French standard 25.0 mm.
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Yes! Yes! Yes!
I got a set of these on that 70's Le Tour that was given to me. I'm still trying to decide which other bike to put them on since the Schwinn is not my size...
I got a set of these on that 70's Le Tour that was given to me. I'm still trying to decide which other bike to put them on since the Schwinn is not my size...
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Seems like every bike I've acquired in the last year had Rando bars installed: Gitane 600, Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, Cannondale ST500. I like the bend, but they're all so narrow compared with modern bars. Did everyone grow wider shoulders in the last 30 years?





