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Old 01-06-08 | 09:43 PM
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1965 Carlton Model?

Hey again, Here are a couple of pics of a 1965? Carlton,I posted earlier to find out what year this bike was but still dont have model info..The original color was white with a blk/yell/red stripe on downtube,Gb handle bars with carlton brake covers,weinmann brakes,campy Gran Sport Derailer,Campy pedals ,Brooks Seat B15?,Someone said it has colors like a 1969 model..... thanks for any help...

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Old 01-06-08 | 10:28 PM
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Looks like a lower end model by the seat stay treatment... though the cotterless crank spindle says better quality. What's the bottom bracket brand?

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Old 01-06-08 | 11:37 PM
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It has a campagnolo bottom bracket.The bike did not come with a kickstand when purchased new?

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Old 01-07-08 | 01:46 AM
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If it had Capella headlugs, I would say Catalina, but not correct there. The balance is similar. Catalinas had 531 straight ga. tube throughout. The BB I bet is not original, Campag was fitted to the tip top racing models, this is not. probably designed for 27" wheels. If the Dunlop high pressure steel rims, they command a fairly high price themselves.
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Old 01-07-08 | 12:05 PM
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Looks like a lower end model by the seat stay treatment... though the cotterless crank spindle says better quality. What's the bottom bracket brand?
Whats wrong with the seat stays ? That wrap around look was a feature of Carlton frames at the time as was the curved brake cable bridge. It looks quality to me!
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Old 01-07-08 | 12:10 PM
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Hey,this bike is original except possibly for the wheels,my father had an accident on it right after it was purchased.It was given to him by my mother as a birthday present in 65/66,As kids we were told is was a racing bike.Thanks for helping me try to identify it...(can I add a certain pic that would help)
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Old 01-07-08 | 12:45 PM
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Here another pic,I took this bike apart in 198? planning to paint it.

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Great that you saved the bike over the years! Those are some pretty rare and valuable components. You might easily be able to finance all the Nuovo Record components you could possibly want with the sale of what you have there.

Hope you still have the left crank arm. People are always looking for the pre-67ish Campy cranksets. They had a bolt circle of 151 mm, and (like it or not) the smallest chainring was 44 teeth, which does force you into rather high gearing. But a Nuovo Record crankset would still keep the smallest ring at 42 teeth anyway, so not much difference really. If those are the Campy pedals on the crank in your photo, those would also appear to be a very rare version as well. And, the Gran Sport derailleur seems to be in very nice shape.

The Weinmann tubular rim looks pretty uncommon. No spoke eyelets, so I may actually have wood inserts inside the alloy shell. The GB stems are always nice and are becoming harder to find these days.

The original paint colors you described sound a lot like the 1969 Raleigh Professional. Raleigh owned Carlton Cycles during the 1960s, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was where they "borrowed" the idea for the color scheme on the Pro. Could make a nice re-paint for the Carlton too... [hint, hint]

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I like the art work on head tube logo, very neat.
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Whats wrong with the seat stays ? That wrap around look was a feature of Carlton frames at the time as was the curved brake cable bridge. It looks quality to me!

Just judging by the later Raleighs. All the better Carltons I've had have had the typical wraparound seatstays. But I could be wrong judging from parts that came on it. Lugs actually look like the Flyer frame I got on ebay. Here's a Flyer ad, though they seem to have Campagnolo dropouts, and the 1966 Flyer frame I got on ebay; decals from Lloyds:
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Old 01-08-08 | 04:51 PM
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thanks for info

Thanks for additional info on my bike,I have the left crank and hopefully all the parts to rebuild it.I really want to find someone to restore it.(Thanks for the pic Stronglight it looks almost exactly like this bike originally)cool stuff...

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Does this site offer any help?
https://www.carltoncycles.me.uk/home.htm
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Old 01-12-08 | 03:20 PM
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I really want to find someone to restore it.(Thanks for the pic Stronglight it looks almost exactly like this bike originally)cool stuff...
The picture Stronglight posted is one of my recent paintjobs.

Here's a detail few will ever see...
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