Claud Butler 50's lugless frame
01-20-08 | 07:54 AM
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Claud Butler 50's lugless frame
Since my Raleigh frame snapped recently at the seat stays and chainstay
I was offered this lugless 50's Claud Butler frame by a friend
It's handy being tall with short mates
I've just got to find some forks to suit it and get building it.
I was offered this lugless 50's Claud Butler frame by a friend
It's handy being tall with short mates
I've just got to find some forks to suit it and get building it.
01-20-08 | 10:40 AM
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ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.
"Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"_Nicodemus
"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
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Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"_krazygluon
01-20-08 | 07:46 PM
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Anything wrong with using the Raleigh's fork (stripped or repainted)?
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01-21-08 | 02:00 PM
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04-30-11 | 04:13 PM
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Well it's been a while, I was trying to find period parts but got fed up waiting and just built it anyway or it would have just sat there pining for the road.
Spec:
Claud Butler 531 lugless steel frame [mid fifties]
Miche cranks,
Normandy Hubs on Mavic Record du Monde de l'Heure sprint rims with tubs,
Brooks Swift saddle,
Nitto B123 steel bars and Nitto Pearl stem,
Campagnolo brake levers,
and a Hi-Gear brake because it was the only one in the shed with enough drop
Spec:
Claud Butler 531 lugless steel frame [mid fifties]
Miche cranks,
Normandy Hubs on Mavic Record du Monde de l'Heure sprint rims with tubs,
Brooks Swift saddle,
Nitto B123 steel bars and Nitto Pearl stem,
Campagnolo brake levers,
and a Hi-Gear brake because it was the only one in the shed with enough drop
04-30-11 | 04:25 PM
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From: Maidstone, Kent, England
Bikes: 1970 Holdsworth Mistral, Vitus 979, Colnago Primavera, Corratec Hydracarbon, Massi MegaTeam, 1935 Claud Butler Super Velo, Carrera Virtuoso, Viner, 1953 Claud Butler Silver Jubilee, 1954 Holdsworth Typhoon, 1966 Claud Butler Olympic Road, 1982 Claud
Well it's been a while, I was trying to find period parts but got fed up waiting and just built it anyway or it would have just sat there pining for the road.
Spec:
Claud Butler 531 lugless steel frame [mid fifties]
Miche cranks,
Normandy Hubs on Mavic Record du Monde de l'Heure sprint rims with tubs,
Brooks Swift saddle,
Nitto B123 steel bars and Nitto Pearl stem,
Campagnolo brake levers,
and a Hi-Gear brake because it was the only one in the shed with enough drop
Spec:
Claud Butler 531 lugless steel frame [mid fifties]
Miche cranks,
Normandy Hubs on Mavic Record du Monde de l'Heure sprint rims with tubs,
Brooks Swift saddle,
Nitto B123 steel bars and Nitto Pearl stem,
Campagnolo brake levers,
and a Hi-Gear brake because it was the only one in the shed with enough drop
04-30-11 | 07:59 PM
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05-01-11 | 10:24 AM
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05-02-11 | 07:15 AM
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From: Maidstone, Kent, England
Bikes: 1970 Holdsworth Mistral, Vitus 979, Colnago Primavera, Corratec Hydracarbon, Massi MegaTeam, 1935 Claud Butler Super Velo, Carrera Virtuoso, Viner, 1953 Claud Butler Silver Jubilee, 1954 Holdsworth Typhoon, 1966 Claud Butler Olympic Road, 1982 Claud
05-02-11 | 10:24 AM
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Brothers, so the story goes. Here's a quote excerpted from the CR List archives:
"...But recently I met a fellow
online who seems to know a lot about many bikes who says they were definitely
brothers. So I asked if it were documented anywhere. He said yes and
pointed me
to a book which I have now obtained from the VCC about Frederick H Pratt,
Cycling Engineer, compiled by Alvin Smith. He interviewed Fred's son
Noel for
much of the information in the book. Fred (and Geoffrey) had worked at
Claud's shop before and during the war. After the war, things went a
little crazy
around the shop and many employees left. Fred left to open his own shop in
Salfords, and Geoffrey left to open his shop in Croydon. Fred was married to
Joan Butler, who was Claud and Geoffrey's sister by the way. "
-Bob Freeman of Elliott Bay Bicycles
"...But recently I met a fellow
online who seems to know a lot about many bikes who says they were definitely
brothers. So I asked if it were documented anywhere. He said yes and
pointed me
to a book which I have now obtained from the VCC about Frederick H Pratt,
Cycling Engineer, compiled by Alvin Smith. He interviewed Fred's son
Noel for
much of the information in the book. Fred (and Geoffrey) had worked at
Claud's shop before and during the war. After the war, things went a
little crazy
around the shop and many employees left. Fred left to open his own shop in
Salfords, and Geoffrey left to open his shop in Croydon. Fred was married to
Joan Butler, who was Claud and Geoffrey's sister by the way. "
-Bob Freeman of Elliott Bay Bicycles
05-09-11 | 01:42 PM
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From: Maidstone, Kent, England
Bikes: 1970 Holdsworth Mistral, Vitus 979, Colnago Primavera, Corratec Hydracarbon, Massi MegaTeam, 1935 Claud Butler Super Velo, Carrera Virtuoso, Viner, 1953 Claud Butler Silver Jubilee, 1954 Holdsworth Typhoon, 1966 Claud Butler Olympic Road, 1982 Claud
Brothers, so the story goes. Here's a quote excerpted from the CR List archives:
"...But recently I met a fellow
online who seems to know a lot about many bikes who says they were definitely
brothers. So I asked if it were documented anywhere. He said yes and
pointed me
to a book which I have now obtained from the VCC about Frederick H Pratt,
Cycling Engineer, compiled by Alvin Smith. He interviewed Fred's son
Noel for
much of the information in the book. Fred (and Geoffrey) had worked at
Claud's shop before and during the war. After the war, things went a
little crazy
around the shop and many employees left. Fred left to open his own shop in
Salfords, and Geoffrey left to open his shop in Croydon. Fred was married to
Joan Butler, who was Claud and Geoffrey's sister by the way. "
-Bob Freeman of Elliott Bay Bicycles
"...But recently I met a fellow
online who seems to know a lot about many bikes who says they were definitely
brothers. So I asked if it were documented anywhere. He said yes and
pointed me
to a book which I have now obtained from the VCC about Frederick H Pratt,
Cycling Engineer, compiled by Alvin Smith. He interviewed Fred's son
Noel for
much of the information in the book. Fred (and Geoffrey) had worked at
Claud's shop before and during the war. After the war, things went a
little crazy
around the shop and many employees left. Fred left to open his own shop in
Salfords, and Geoffrey left to open his shop in Croydon. Fred was married to
Joan Butler, who was Claud and Geoffrey's sister by the way. "
-Bob Freeman of Elliott Bay Bicycles
