Well, I bought a Vitus/Alan/Peugeot Comet type of bonded aluminum frame and I can’t for the life of me come up with who made this thing. Here are some pics from the ad. I have to wait for a sunny day to take more detailed pics (That may take awhile. It’s Washington after all).



Anyways, the only sticker left on it says “Dura All”. Actually there is one that says DA as well. There is a serial # 80618 on the bottom bracket and a 53 below that which I assume is the size. Most of the joints have been “pinned” with what appears to be a rivet. The seat stays aren’t bolted together like the aforementioned Peugeots. It does not have internal cable routing either. It also does not have the “grub screw” holding the seat post in check like every Vitus except for one that I have seen. The seat cluster looks like an Alan. The head tube is a single lug like every Vitus I’ve seen. What gives? Am I missing another manufacturer? I have only found one frame like mine online. Here it is in the form of a completed auction on the bay:
https://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-DURA-ALL...QQcmdZViewItem

I had a wild and crazy idea while staying up way past my bedtime (like tonight) trying to figure this out before asking here. What if one of those shops that specialized in the repair of frames like this took a combo of all those Pugs that were scrapped because of recalls and all the back shelf stuff for frame repairs and created a mutt Vitus/Pug/Alan and branded it as a Dura All which sounds very similar to Dural? Oh ya…….And the graphics designer sucked! I can see the outline of the Dura All stickers on the frame and they are very generic looking.

Any clues?

Thanks,
Kelly D

P.S. I think I'll use these shifters just 'cause.

The pics of the details are too dark to tell for sure, but based on what I can can see it is reminescent of the aluminum frames offered by Performance Bicycle Shop in the very late 1980s. Those frames were Japanese in origin.

Kelly what about the fork?

knesis made frames like this, but I don't remember what they were called. They matched the aluminum bonded fork that most everyone spec'ed in the late 80's.

I was thinking it might be a generic version of a Vitus sold mail order. I wish I could find a catalog or something. I'll also look into the Knesis (is that the correct spelling?) as well. Thanks guys.
Kelly D

Pinned? I have 3 Vitus 979 frames in my household but do not consider myself an expert. None of my frames are pinned. Your seat stay cluster looks like an early 979. (The later ones have the set screw system for seatpost adjustment.) The 979 frames I've seen all have the rear brake cable routed internally. Look at the side of the head tube. Is there a number inside a circular depression?

Strange animal you have there.

Memory faintly remembers seeing one of these in the late 80s early 90s.
It definitely looks VERY Vitus 979. Even the color matches my Rose '86 Vitus. But there are differences...the fork crown is different, the seat cluster is longer and bulkier, although it looks like my old style Vitus. The rear dropouts have sharp lines where the seatstays terminate, whereas the Vitus is sculpted. And of course the external cable routing bosses.
Perhaps the company bought off Vitus/Bador tooling for the 979 when the model was discontinued.

And what a coincidence regarding your choice of shift lever!!

What do you think of those shifters? What RD are you using with them and how many speeds? I was thinking Mavic 851 with a 6 speed. Also love the handle bar wrap! Is it that cello tape? What neck is that?
Love the bike! And I don't care what anyone says..........I love the color. It reminds me of a 61 Caddy Coupe DeVille in Champagne with white leather. Yum........

They work ok, nothing special as friction shifters go. They are light, and look 'cool', like a lot of Modolo products. But some folks have complained about snapping them.
They pull on a Dura Ace EX FD, and a Campy Super Record RD. I have a Winner Pro Ultra-7 on a 6-spd Record hub.
Yup, that's Benotto Celotape, white and pink in a cross pattern.
The stem is a Modolo Professional from the late 80s. IMHO, I think they look good, but they are supposedly fragile. I haven't had any trouble yet with mine.

Yeah, I think the color looks great too!

Kinesis. early morning typography.

Not a Vitus. The lug/tube junctions are too long, and the seat cluster is wrong. The long lug ends were a feature of the Comete, no?

Similar?

Ahhhhhh^^^^^^^!!! Thats just like mine! Exactly! I am dying for answers! Does that say Ganwell Pro? I take my previous comment about ugly stickers back! That looks kinda ninja/transformers! Transformers......More than meets the eye.......Ya I am a dork but ninjas and transformers are cool....I couldn't resist! Is it stock or re-fitted with other components? Did you buy it new? If so was it a bare frame and fork or was it complete? I am sure I'll have more questions soon so I'll stop there. I've gots me some interwebin' research to do!

Pretty snazzy by the way. Any problems with it?

Kelly D.

Gan Well...Japanese brand associated with Keirin frames...possibly this is a Kinesis cousin?
a pic,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pawls/1...7594136279221/
more on this flickr site...I understand that the builder of the steel Gan Well Keirin frames recently died (suddenly) of pancreatic disease, the venerable Mr. Doi.

Actually I just found that photo online - it is for sale in Kyoto ($650) - just googled on "Duraall aluminum".

Yes the Comete and Galaxie used long lugs but they were the same outer diameter as the tubes, providing a flush fit. Also, the seat lug and stay attachment is correct, as are the forks, etc.

The Gan Well Pro pics match up very well with the Performance Corsa frames. It appears we have a Japanese manufacturer who sourced out the frames to various brands. I don't think it a Kinesis frame. The Performance frames were definitely available in 1988, a full year before Kinesis was formed, and according to my literature, were produced in Japan while Kinesis was a Taiwanese company that also has production facilities in China and the USA.

Ya, I clicked properties on that pic and followed it to the site. Lots of great pics of it. Too bad my computer wouldn't translate or load the Japanese script. I'd like to know what components it uses. Looks like a 600 ex group?

Thanks,
Kelly D

If I read that correctly.......Its not a Peugeot then? My frame is definently bonded and "pinned" which those weren't correct? Also.......many of the pics of early Kinesis forks look very similar if not exactly like mine. Perhaps they bought the company that produced these or simply re-branded them later on?

Translated Specifications:
Frame: DURAALL Aluminum 540mm (c-t)
Headset: HATTA
Crank: SUNTOUR SUPERBE PRO
Chain rings: SUNTOUR SUPERBE PRO 52-42t
Deraileur F: SUNTOUR SUPERBE PRO
Deraileur R: SUNTOUR SUPERBE PRO
Sprockets :12-24
Pedal: WELLGO
Handlebar: KUSUKI WIN PISTA 390mm
Stem: 80mm
Shifter: SUNTOUR
Saddle: SELLE ITALIA ONDA
Seatpost: SUNTOUR SUPERBE PRO
Rear hub: SUNTOUR SUPERBE PRO
Front hub: SHIMANO DURAACE
Rim: CHUBURATAIYA SUPER CHAMPION: PANARACER
Brakes: SUNTOUR SUPERBE PRO
Brake lever: SHIMNAO600

I agree. Kinesis is a taiwan company, and although I hunted high and low this morning, and couldn't find a picture of the early bonded frame from them, I am pretty sure that this is different. The pantheon of early bonded frames (in my mind, of course) just acquired another member.

Duraall must be pretty rare, though...

and I was gonna give you some crap about those weird chairs...

Thanks! Thats a pretty fancy get up. I don't think this one is gonna get a a full compliment of the SuperBe Pro stuff. That would break the bank! I've got some Campy NR, Mavic, Modolo, Cinelli and Galli stuff that it will get. Not the same era and a weird mix but I think I'll ride it for a bit then decide just how much I really like it before spending the big bucks on getting a complete group.

Well, I've gone through an elimination process with Japanese manufacturers, and the most likely candidate that I come up with is SR, not the early 1990s Prism Pro frame, but the even earlier one.

AH HA! I think your definently on to something. I found this online.
https://www.rainiercycle.com/specialty.htm
It's NOS and in my back yard. Well not really... but close. Scroll to the bottom. The seat stay looks different but it's hard to tell w/such a small pic. I think I'll have to go to Tacoma and check it out. The one other one I found was REALLY different at the seat stays but the rest looked spot on.


Thanks!

Wow 2500?!?!