Sachs Components
08-31-15 | 05:18 PM
#26
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You just need a good friend or two or three . . .
In any case, I ran sachs seven (DT shifters, RD, on a sachs maillard freewheel) with a hodgepodge of other components on my team miyata for a long time (a mix of superbe, dura ace, and sach stuff).
I thought the stuff shifted and worked great.
In any case, I ran sachs seven (DT shifters, RD, on a sachs maillard freewheel) with a hodgepodge of other components on my team miyata for a long time (a mix of superbe, dura ace, and sach stuff).
I thought the stuff shifted and worked great.
09-01-15 | 12:25 AM
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Well, the German-branded Italian brake is attractive, anyhow.
"New Success" sounds like a bad translation from Japanese.
"New Success" sounds like a bad translation from Japanese.
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09-01-15 | 03:40 AM
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Bikes: '92 22" Cannondale M2000, '92 Cannondale R1000 Tandem, another modern Canndondale tandem, Two Holy Grail '86 Cannondale ST800s 27" (68.5cm) Touring bike w/Superbe Pro components and Phil Wood hubs. A bunch of other 27" ST frames & bikes.
I picked up some New Success brake calipers to fill out my group. I can't use the cranks, too small. I also picked up some New Success cantilever brakes, that actually came in a Sachs original box (strangely with the Caliper road brake image). While the road calipers are beautiful and shiny bling, the cantilever brakes aren't very impressive at all. Think black plasticky cantilevers and you've pretty much got it. I wanted the flexibility to put these on the tandem or the ST800s if I go that route, or the flexibility to put the calipers on the other ST frames.
Thinking now I might not use the Ergolevers after all. I do like dowtube shifters on Kelly Take-Offs. However, finding the New Success downtube shifters in good condition is proving impossible. Maybe I'll just run these with the Ergos after all. I've completely switched to mustache bars (so much more comfortable) and don't really want to go back to uncomfortable road bars.
Everything I've used has pretty much been miserable (WTB Dirt Drop, Salsa Pro Road, Nitto Noodle, Nitto Gran Randonneur, 3TTT, and a cheapo Forte). On the other hand the mustache bars have been heavenly and I love having multiple hand positions. I'm a little long on my stems now as the mustache bars require a bit shorter stem, but the fit is so much more comfortable with the m'bars. Which kind of makes Ergolever/STI shifting impossible.
09-01-15 | 06:34 AM
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I've never gotten inside my Sachs New Success levers but its been said that New Success Ergos use bushings where Campagnolo uses bearings in their own stuff. Anyone know if New Succes Ergos can be upgraded to bearings, or what really difference it makes, if any at all?
I picked up some New Success brake calipers to fill out my group. I can't use the cranks, too small. I also picked up some New Success cantilever brakes, that actually came in a Sachs original box (strangely with the Caliper road brake image). While the road calipers are beautiful and shiny bling, the cantilever brakes aren't very impressive at all. Think black plasticky cantilevers and you've pretty much got it. I wanted the flexibility to put these on the tandem or the ST800s if I go that route, or the flexibility to put the calipers on the other ST frames.
Thinking now I might not use the Ergolevers after all. I do like dowtube shifters on Kelly Take-Offs. However, finding the New Success downtube shifters in good condition is proving impossible. Maybe I'll just run these with the Ergos after all. I've completely switched to mustache bars (so much more comfortable) and don't really want to go back to uncomfortable road bars.
Everything I've used has pretty much been miserable (WTB Dirt Drop, Salsa Pro Road, Nitto Noodle, Nitto Gran Randonneur, 3TTT, and a cheapo Forte). On the other hand the mustache bars have been heavenly and I love having multiple hand positions. I'm a little long on my stems now as the mustache bars require a bit shorter stem, but the fit is so much more comfortable with the m'bars. Which kind of makes Ergolever/STI shifting impossible.
I picked up some New Success brake calipers to fill out my group. I can't use the cranks, too small. I also picked up some New Success cantilever brakes, that actually came in a Sachs original box (strangely with the Caliper road brake image). While the road calipers are beautiful and shiny bling, the cantilever brakes aren't very impressive at all. Think black plasticky cantilevers and you've pretty much got it. I wanted the flexibility to put these on the tandem or the ST800s if I go that route, or the flexibility to put the calipers on the other ST frames.
Thinking now I might not use the Ergolevers after all. I do like dowtube shifters on Kelly Take-Offs. However, finding the New Success downtube shifters in good condition is proving impossible. Maybe I'll just run these with the Ergos after all. I've completely switched to mustache bars (so much more comfortable) and don't really want to go back to uncomfortable road bars.
Everything I've used has pretty much been miserable (WTB Dirt Drop, Salsa Pro Road, Nitto Noodle, Nitto Gran Randonneur, 3TTT, and a cheapo Forte). On the other hand the mustache bars have been heavenly and I love having multiple hand positions. I'm a little long on my stems now as the mustache bars require a bit shorter stem, but the fit is so much more comfortable with the m'bars. Which kind of makes Ergolever/STI shifting impossible.
If you end up not using the ergos, I would always welcome a backup set. my setup is 7 speed...
good luck setting yours up. i like nitto noodles, interesting to hear you prefer mustaches. may have to try em soon
09-01-15 | 06:37 AM
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I've never gotten inside my Sachs New Success levers but its been said that New Success Ergos use bushings where Campagnolo uses bearings in their own stuff. Anyone know if New Succes Ergos can be upgraded to bearings, or what really difference it makes, if any at all?
I picked up some New Success brake calipers to fill out my group. I can't use the cranks, too small. I also picked up some New Success cantilever brakes, that actually came in a Sachs original box (strangely with the Caliper road brake image). While the road calipers are beautiful and shiny bling, the cantilever brakes aren't very impressive at all. Think black plasticky cantilevers and you've pretty much got it. I wanted the flexibility to put these on the tandem or the ST800s if I go that route, or the flexibility to put the calipers on the other ST frames.
Thinking now I might not use the Ergolevers after all. I do like dowtube shifters on Kelly Take-Offs. However, finding the New Success downtube shifters in good condition is proving impossible. Maybe I'll just run these with the Ergos after all. I've completely switched to mustache bars (so much more comfortable) and don't really want to go back to uncomfortable road bars.
Everything I've used has pretty much been miserable (WTB Dirt Drop, Salsa Pro Road, Nitto Noodle, Nitto Gran Randonneur, 3TTT, and a cheapo Forte). On the other hand the mustache bars have been heavenly and I love having multiple hand positions. I'm a little long on my stems now as the mustache bars require a bit shorter stem, but the fit is so much more comfortable with the m'bars. Which kind of makes Ergolever/STI shifting impossible.
I picked up some New Success brake calipers to fill out my group. I can't use the cranks, too small. I also picked up some New Success cantilever brakes, that actually came in a Sachs original box (strangely with the Caliper road brake image). While the road calipers are beautiful and shiny bling, the cantilever brakes aren't very impressive at all. Think black plasticky cantilevers and you've pretty much got it. I wanted the flexibility to put these on the tandem or the ST800s if I go that route, or the flexibility to put the calipers on the other ST frames.
Thinking now I might not use the Ergolevers after all. I do like dowtube shifters on Kelly Take-Offs. However, finding the New Success downtube shifters in good condition is proving impossible. Maybe I'll just run these with the Ergos after all. I've completely switched to mustache bars (so much more comfortable) and don't really want to go back to uncomfortable road bars.
Everything I've used has pretty much been miserable (WTB Dirt Drop, Salsa Pro Road, Nitto Noodle, Nitto Gran Randonneur, 3TTT, and a cheapo Forte). On the other hand the mustache bars have been heavenly and I love having multiple hand positions. I'm a little long on my stems now as the mustache bars require a bit shorter stem, but the fit is so much more comfortable with the m'bars. Which kind of makes Ergolever/STI shifting impossible.
