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Bikes: '69 Raleigh DL-1, '72 Paramount, '75 Eisentraut, '80 A-D Vent Noir II, '82 A-D Inter 10, '83 Motobecane Grand Touring, '83 Stumpjumper, '84 Masi GC, '87 Recherche, '87 Tesch 101, '88 Tesch S-22, '88 Davidson...
Question of the Day
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QUESTION OF THE DAY - April 2, 2008
What is the best "starter bike" for a CV collection?
QUESTION OF THE DAY - April 2, 2008
What is the best "starter bike" for a CV collection?
Raleigh Super Course from the late 70s.
Relatively accessible, Carlton built, 531 tubing, Suntour equipped, excellent ride-to-value
Relatively accessible, Carlton built, 531 tubing, Suntour equipped, excellent ride-to-value
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Bikes: Lejeune(14), Raleigh, Raysport, Jan De Reus, Gazelle, Masi, B. Carré(4), Springfield, Greg Lemond, Andre Bertin, Schwinn Paramount
Other forums have this. I figure let's give it a go and see if it sticks. I'll begin:
QUESTION OF THE DAY - April 2, 2008
What is the best "starter bike" for a CV collection?
QUESTION OF THE DAY - April 2, 2008
What is the best "starter bike" for a CV collection?
Raleigh Super Course from the late 70s.
Relatively accessible, Carlton built, 531 tubing, Suntour equipped, excellent ride-to-value
Relatively accessible, Carlton built, 531 tubing, Suntour equipped, excellent ride-to-value
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Starting with something that has a steel frame is a good way to go. ChroMo and better types of tubing typically make for good riding vintage bikes (and new ones as well). This page helps to sort out what is what regarding steel.
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My Chesini X-Uno (Columbus SLPX, Chrome, Etc.)
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Link To Joseph Magnani Info (The Guy In My Avatar -- Famous American Racer and Builder of Schwinn Paramounts)
My Chesini X-Uno (Columbus SLPX, Chrome, Etc.)
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I'd start with something a bit more modest. If I had to start from scratch, and was on a budget, I'd get a Raleigh Grand Prix. With $500.00 to spend - a PX10 that needs a bit of attention, or a nice, but lesser known bicycle.
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Bikes: '69 Raleigh DL-1, '72 Paramount, '75 Eisentraut, '80 A-D Vent Noir II, '82 A-D Inter 10, '83 Motobecane Grand Touring, '83 Stumpjumper, '84 Masi GC, '87 Recherche, '87 Tesch 101, '88 Tesch S-22, '88 Davidson...
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Bikes: Lejeune(14), Raleigh, Raysport, Jan De Reus, Gazelle, Masi, B. Carré(4), Springfield, Greg Lemond, Andre Bertin, Schwinn Paramount
Hmmmm.....I thought the pros were supposed to be blocked!
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From: Allen, TX
Bikes: Kirk Frameworks JKS-C, Serotta Nova, Gazelle AB-Frame, Fuji Team Issue, Surly Straggler
For a rider: Japanese steel (or Japanese made for American company such as Schwinn)
For a rider with (some) collector value: Mid to late 70's mid-range Raleigh.
For a rider on a nice budget: Upper end Raleigh, Schwinn, Nishiki, or Italian maker depending on tastes.
For a rider with (some) collector value: Mid to late 70's mid-range Raleigh.
For a rider on a nice budget: Upper end Raleigh, Schwinn, Nishiki, or Italian maker depending on tastes.
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
A basic bike boom era 10-speed is a good way to start, but if you have no specialized tools and little mechanical experience, there is nothing like an old Varsinental or Super Sport. To minimize hassles with incompatible threads or diameters, consider Japanese or English, rather than French.
Of course, if you can find a ca. 1960 Capo, that's not bad, either.
Of course, if you can find a ca. 1960 Capo, that's not bad, either.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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QUESTION OF THE DAY - April 3, 2008
What's the one you wish you had back?
What's the one you wish you had back?
'71 Masi Gran Criterium. Gorgeous Milano Masi in classic red. Sold it for what now seems like giving it away (I think it was around $700) when I got my 3V. This was a few years before Masimania so I didn't even record any of the information on it. I have a Carlsbad replacement, but I do wish I had the crystal ball to keep the '71
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Bikes: Motobecane Mirage fixed gear, Nashbar Alpha Road 5000, Bianchi Grizzly, Coppi Fiorelli, , Schwinn Trike, , GT All Terra, Old Peugeot, Nishiki 3 speed, Bugatti, Cannondale Black Lightning, Dura All, Bianchi Touring, Bridgestone T700 & more
QUESTION OF THE DAY - April 3, 2008
What's the one you wish you had back?
What's the one you wish you had back?
'71 Masi Gran Criterium. Gorgeous Milano Masi in classic red. Sold it for what now seems like giving it away (I think it was around $700) when I got my 3V. This was a few years before Masimania so I didn't even record any of the information on it. I have a Carlsbad replacement, but I do wish I had the crystal ball to keep the '71

I was visiting my dad in San Diego for the summer and had my bike shipped there so I could ride it around. When I came home (Washington State) for school my half brother (who I didn't know) took my bike and sold it. I still dislike him to this day for that and he has never apologized or made any effort to pay me back. 3 summers of hard labor! *******!
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Bikes: 2000 Litespeed Classic, 1984 Schwinn LeTour, 1998 Gary Fisher Marlin, 1969 Hercules, 1977 Sekai 5000 Superlite, 1993 Koga-Myata TerraLiner, 2013 Trek Farley.
The bike that calls out to you from a dumpster.
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From: Hervey Bay, Qld, Australia.
Bikes: Colnago (82, 85, 89, 90, 91, 96, 03), 85 Cinelli, 90 Rossin, 83 Alan, 82 Bianchi, 78 Fountain, 2 x Pinarello, Malvern Star (37), Hillman (70's), 80's Beretto Lo-Pro Track, 80's Kenevans Lo-Pro, Columbus Max (95), DeGrandi (80's) Track.
Personally, it would have to be Italian. I first started with a locally recognised brand but I just didn't appreciate its worth. Not until I got my first Italian bike did I really start to appreciate what I had.
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What is the bike you used to have.... and wish you still had?
What is the bike you used to have.... and wish you still had?
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Bikes: 2000 Litespeed Classic, 1984 Schwinn LeTour, 1998 Gary Fisher Marlin, 1969 Hercules, 1977 Sekai 5000 Superlite, 1993 Koga-Myata TerraLiner, 2013 Trek Farley.
I don't even know what kind of Peugeot it was. I certainly never did a thing to maintain it. In about 15 years of faithful service on city streets it never got a flat, and I never once even lubed the chain. What I remember is it was metallic gray with orange decals, it was as good as brakeless in the rain, and it cost about $240 new around 1982.
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I had a Boss beach cruiser that I made into a serviceable MTB, half a lifetime ago on Block Island. It got stolen from under the deck of a bar in Rhode Island. I still miss that beastie.
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The best bicycle I ever sold was a 1990 Bob Jackson, but it was a little too small for me, and I don't really regret selling it. If I could have one back, it would be the Raleigh Super Course that was stolen from me when I locked it to a bicycle I correctly presumed was stolen from my Uncle's bicycle shop, and came back 5 minutes later to find both the bikes gone. The worst pain was knowing who took it, but not having proof. In retrospect, I probably should have fibbed to the cops and said I saw the guy who I know took it riding it down the street when I came back. The price of being honest.
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not a one.
i've owned dozens of road bikes over the years- most were well-regarded, some were unique or rare, a few even revered,
...and i kept the very best one.
i've since picked up a few others to satisfy my curiosity,& my nostalgic fantasies,...a couple are intended for plebian practicalities & some just to broaden my own cycling experiences.
I plan to keep the best of those....
...but i've absolutely no interest in revisiting the tossers.
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i've owned dozens of road bikes over the years- most were well-regarded, some were unique or rare, a few even revered,
...and i kept the very best one.
i've since picked up a few others to satisfy my curiosity,& my nostalgic fantasies,...a couple are intended for plebian practicalities & some just to broaden my own cycling experiences.
I plan to keep the best of those....
...but i've absolutely no interest in revisiting the tossers.
k





