OEM gear ratios
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feros ferio

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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
OEM gear ratios
On a classic bike, how many of you try to keep the OEM gear ratios, such as a knee-breaking 52-45 / 14-15-17-19-21 with an early 1970s PX-10, and how many of you freely change them? In my usual style on many topics, I have a centrist position of freely changing gear ratios within the constraints of the OEM derailleurs, and preferably with period-correct and brand-correct components. There is no way I am going to ride a Capo with 52-48 / 14-16-18-20-22 gearing -- the lowest I can go with my cranks and derailleurs is 45/26, which fortunately fits my needs.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
#2
I change whatever it takes to make a bike ridable.
Of course, I don't ride anything so collectible that I feel bad doing it.
I currently have an early 70's Sears 10 speed with cotterless crank, LX RD and 6 speed Megarange freewheel... along with upgraded wheels (aluminum rims), technomic stem and Nitto bars with Tektro brake levers and stem mounted indexed 6 speed Shimano shifters.
The headset, frame, fork seatpost and brakes are original, everything else is a replacement, and decidedly not period correct.
My Schwinn Voyageur has exactly the same original components, with everything else replaced with current Shimano 105 level components.
Of course, I don't ride anything so collectible that I feel bad doing it.
I currently have an early 70's Sears 10 speed with cotterless crank, LX RD and 6 speed Megarange freewheel... along with upgraded wheels (aluminum rims), technomic stem and Nitto bars with Tektro brake levers and stem mounted indexed 6 speed Shimano shifters.
The headset, frame, fork seatpost and brakes are original, everything else is a replacement, and decidedly not period correct.
My Schwinn Voyageur has exactly the same original components, with everything else replaced with current Shimano 105 level components.
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From: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
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^ whatever makes it ridable. I don't mind having 52/42 13-24 7sp for long stretches of rolling hills, but I'd much rather have 53/39 13-25 9sp for some steeper hills.
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From: Gatineau, Quebec
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I'm still riding my original gearing so far - 52/42 chainrings and a 13-15-17-19-21-23 freewheel. It's okay for >95% of my riding but when I do the biggest hills around here I really could use a lower gear. I'm thinking of getting a spare wheel with a 12-27 freewheel for the hillier rides.
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From: Colorado Springs, CO
Bikes: 1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo (frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame), 1974 Peugeot UO-8
On a classic bike, how many of you try to keep the OEM gear ratios, such as a knee-breaking 52-45 / 14-15-17-19-21 with an early 1970s PX-10, and how many of you freely change them? In my usual style on many topics, I have a centrist position of freely changing gear ratios within the constraints of the OEM derailleurs, and preferably with period-correct and brand-correct components. There is no way I am going to ride a Capo with 52-48 / 14-16-18-20-22 gearing -- the lowest I can go with my cranks and derailleurs is 45/26, which fortunately fits my needs.

Currently my Bottecchia has a 52-40 front in place of the oem 52-42 setup and the oem 14-28 setup in the rear which is fine for riding in town and really wasn't bad for an oem setup but I'm seriously considering swapping the rear axle to allow a 13-32 7-spd with a Campagnolo Rally derailleur for riding some centuries this year. Those 12,000 passes are rough. BTW, back in the day I swapped the oem 14-28 freewheel on my bike for a 13-21. It was flatter and I was younger.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
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feros ferio

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From: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
I'm still riding my original gearing so far - 52/42 chainrings and a 13-15-17-19-21-23 freewheel. It's okay for >95% of my riding but when I do the biggest hills around here I really could use a lower gear. I'm thinking of getting a spare wheel with a 12-27 freewheel for the hillier rides.
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
#9
Is it going to be a rider or a wallhanger? I bought my Nishiki Ultimate new with 52-42 * 13-14-15-17-19-21 gears and rode it that way for a few years. After backsliding for a few more years, I got back into it and found the hills a lot tougher, so I switched to a 14-28 7-speed freewheel.
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I will be facing this situation when I get my '87 Fuso up and running. 50-42 crankset with a 6-spd cassette that appears to go no higher than 21. While I can get my fixie up Monte Sano with its 42-15 gearing, it's not as enjoyable as it sounds.
I have no problems with swapping in an 8-spd cassette and/or changing the chainrings up front if I need it.
I have no problems with swapping in an 8-spd cassette and/or changing the chainrings up front if I need it.





