mstrpete

Well, I'll be darned. As I said, better lucky than good. The Brooks is where it belongs-under my pockets Since my Fuji S10-S is what I'm currently riding, that's where the Brooks lives. Although if the Brooks was stock on the SS, then it should go back there and I'll have to find another one for the Fuji...tough life, indeed. Let's see if Photobucket has uploaded the new pics yet. BRB.

mstrpete

Here are some more detail shots of the SS:
Headbadge-notice only two holes, for the oval badge.


Rear hanger, keeping in mind that is not a stock derailleur:


Bullet seatstays:


Stock center-pulls:


Front fork detailing:


Seat tube: 27 mm.


Oh, and it weighs about 30 lbs. as-is, steel drivetrain and all
You don't even want to know what I paid for it, although some of you do if you saw the CL ad. Not that I'm gloating or anything.

cudak888 

I'd hazard a guess that the Schwinn factory was short on round badges that day.

Something about on the line as my chrome 1980 Varsities (one not shown) - guess they had some dip left over before having to dispense of the chemicals in the vats for the month:



-Kurt

mstrpete

So how hard is it to swap out that 1-piece crankset for a 3-piece? Or would that kill the retro vibe?

cudak888 

All you need is a replacement three-piece BB (cups, bearing & spindle) and the 3-piece converter cups available from Harris.

All depends on whether your perception of "retro vibe" is having that mag-wheel crankset on your machine. I retained the original on my '71 Continental, as the goal of that project was to revive this particular Continental to absolute original specs (with the addition of DT stainless spokes):



In my opinion, unless one is trying to retain the full originality or original appearance of a Super Sport, Continental, or Varsity, 3-piece cranks are fair game, even if you want a period appearance. The trick of retaining the period appearance is to avoid anything that looks like a mid '90s Shimano 105 crankset . Campagnolo or TA-knockoff cranksets would be ideal, IMO.

-Kurt

mstrpete

How do you think this would look?

This was salvaged from my '85 Trek 830 MTB, which was also burgundy (hmmm...)
I have the whole BB as well.

cudak888 

It would certainly modernize it, but it is by no means a bad crankset.

You picked the wrong fellow to ask though, for I yanked this identical crankset (a Raleigh pantographed example) off of my '84 Raleigh Alyeska for the fact that I highly dislike it. The "wind" pattern looked ridiculous (and cheap) to me in the first place, and secondly, I always thought it looked akin to a a 5-point swastika.

-Kurt

mstrpete

I agree, it's not the prettiest thing around; it just happens to be available to me right now. I prefer a lighter look, like this:

That's what's on the Fuji right now. 42-52, and I'm finally getting strong enough for it.

mike

'n so. What did you pay for the bike?

mstrpete

Full asking price...$75.00.

cudak888 

With different rings, this would be ideal (price, of course, is ridiculou - traded one off to a BF member recently for about $15 in goods):

https://cgi.ebay.com/SUGINO-CRANKSET-...QQcmdZViewItem

-Kurt

mstrpete

Yeah, the front teeth have to be shiny

Sierra

Hmmmm.....
Did you measure the seat tube of the frame or the seat post that inserts into the seat tube?
On my '66 Super Sport the top tube is 1.00"(25.4mm), the down tube is 1.125"(28.6mm), and the seat tube is 1.16"(29.5mm).

I would think that all the Schwinn fillet brazed chrome moly frames from the sixties and seventies would be the same, but I don't know that for sure.

mstrpete

the seat post itself. The actual seat tube is the same as yours, so that backs up your theory. So what should I look for when I go out hunting a replacement rear derailleur? The two free bike clinics near my house have TONS of old bike parts, and I'm reasonably confident of finding something period-correct, if I know what I'm looking for. Right now I'm thinking of doing a fix-n-flip on this one, but I have to get it rideable first. The rear rim is bent, the chain is slack, the rear brake is stiff, and it doesn't shift at all. I may not get to it before I'm out of school for the summer and have the time to work on it.

Sierra

If you are going with the triple I would probably look for a SunTour VGT-Luxe, VxGT, or Shimano Crane GS. They would be reasonably period correct, are good shifters, and can usually be had for cheap.

BTW, the Brooks B15 was indeed the original saddle for the Super Sports of this vintage. They can be easily found on ebay for not a lot of money. They usually sell for less than the similar B17.

mstrpete

Suppose I wanted to do a stock restoration. What do I look for then, besides a straight Weinmann steel rim?

Mooo

Not to butt in, but I believe the SS had alloy rims most years (Arayas?). Not that other things aren't possible of course.

I found one this Spring too. I like it. (here's "as found")

mstrpete

I'm pretty sure that what's on there, except for the "Le Tour" rear derailleur, is OEM. The wheels have the high-flange hubs; maybe the higher line of Schwinns-the Super Tour, was it? Had alloys. If I decide to keep the bike, I'll do a BB conversion to 3-piece alloy, alloy wheels, alloy bars, and more gears if I can sneak them in. If I decide to sell it, I'll want to do an OEM restoration, which means also that the B-15 will go back on. What a delicious dilemma...

cudak888 

Did the SS's have Weinmann steel rims or the steel "Schwinn Tubular S-6" (which, just to clarify, are not "tubulars" in the sense that we more commonly know it as, and are not of a Schwinn specific size either, even though they carry the S-6 designation) rims of the Varsity and Contintnal?

Just curious, as I don't see much of a point in Schwinn utilizing two different steel rims. Then again, they might have been wise to the fact that their S-6 rims were nothing short of trash.

-Kurt

King of Kadence

All of my S/Ss & S/Ts have weinmann alloy rims.

It was a real puzzler seeing the oval badge on a fillet brazed frame, but then I remembered reading about a non-catalog bike Schwinn assembled in the late seventies to use up all of the remaining fillet brazed frames, the Sport Limited.

https://www.geocities.com/sldatabook/...79sportlimited

If it is a sport limited, it should have a three piece crank and alloy wheels.

What are the first 2 letters in the serial number? Are there any decals on the top or down tube?

The rear dropout looks a little jacked-up, you should sell it to me.

cudak888 

It isn't spec'ed as a Sport Limited, and even if it was, the pre-built frames should have been designed for the round badge regardless.

And IIRC, the Sport Limited was to clear up all the Varsity/Continental frames, no?

-Kurt

King of Kadence

No, it was for the fillet brazed frames.

I dunno about the badge. I've never seen a sport limited besides this one.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/399703-schwinn-sport-limited-pics.html

ecsjr

KofK's web site reference is the same spot I was going to suggest you take a look at. At that same web site is the 1971 Schwin Catalog.

https://www.geocities.com/sldbconsumer/1971/71cc1.html

Cool to look at - I have one of the '71 Racer models. (originally bought by my Grandfather in 1971)