Shimano STI question?
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Shimano STI question?
I put a set of Shimano 600 brifters on my 600 equipped Waterford Paramount. I had a set of 105 brifters on it originally. The 105's were for a triple front, the 600's are for a double. I am finding it difficult to get it properly adjusted due to fairly short cable pull in the brifter. I found some instructions on the Park Tool site that helped, but the whole thing worked better with the triple brifter on the front rather than the double.
In perusing ebay, I found a listing for the same FD that I have that says it is not suitable for STI.
Ebay listing HERE
What I would like to know is what FD is suitable for STI if this particular model isn't.
Thanks!
In perusing ebay, I found a listing for the same FD that I have that says it is not suitable for STI.
Ebay listing HERE
What I would like to know is what FD is suitable for STI if this particular model isn't.
Thanks!
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1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
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1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
Holland Titanium Dura Ace Group
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I dont know of any older friction-based FD's that suit the brifter cable pulls. I had the same problem with a (somewhat lower spec) RX100 FD and a Sora brifter.
Read all about that here.
I suspect this may be the same thing in your case. The modern brifters just dont pull enough cable.
Jim
Read all about that here.
I suspect this may be the same thing in your case. The modern brifters just dont pull enough cable.
Jim
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I have it where it is working tolerably, though not where I would like it now. It feels like there is a fair amount of wear in the FD, though I have nothing to compare it against. I am thinking about buying another one that hopefully is in better shape.
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1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
Holland Titanium Dura Ace Group
Holland Titanium Ultegra Triple Group
1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
Holland Titanium Dura Ace Group
Holland Titanium Ultegra Triple Group
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I dont know of any older friction-based FD's that suit the brifter cable pulls. I had the same problem with a (somewhat lower spec) RX100 FD and a Sora brifter.
Read all about that here.
I suspect this may be the same thing in your case. The modern brifters just dont pull enough cable.
Jim
Read all about that here.
I suspect this may be the same thing in your case. The modern brifters just dont pull enough cable.
Jim
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1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
Holland Titanium Dura Ace Group
Holland Titanium Ultegra Triple Group
1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
Holland Titanium Dura Ace Group
Holland Titanium Ultegra Triple Group
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The front derailleur in the listing you've posted mates with these STI shifters, which share a build date and a system serial number with said FD:
https://cgi.ebay.com/Shimano-ST-6400-...QQcmdZViewItem
Danny
https://cgi.ebay.com/Shimano-ST-6400-...QQcmdZViewItem
Danny
I put a set of Shimano 600 brifters on my 600 equipped Waterford Paramount. I had a set of 105 brifters on it originally. The 105's were for a triple front, the 600's are for a double. I am finding it difficult to get it properly adjusted due to fairly short cable pull in the brifter. I found some instructions on the Park Tool site that helped, but the whole thing worked better with the triple brifter on the front rather than the double.
In perusing ebay, I found a listing for the same FD that I have that says it is not suitable for STI.
Ebay listing HERE
What I would like to know is what FD is suitable for STI if this particular model isn't.
Thanks!
In perusing ebay, I found a listing for the same FD that I have that says it is not suitable for STI.
Ebay listing HERE
What I would like to know is what FD is suitable for STI if this particular model isn't.
Thanks!

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I did buy another FD last night, one that the seller said was brifter compatible. It was cheap, definitely worth a try or to keep as a spare if it is the same as mine.
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1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
Holland Titanium Dura Ace Group
Holland Titanium Ultegra Triple Group
1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
Holland Titanium Dura Ace Group
Holland Titanium Ultegra Triple Group






