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Old 07-10-08 | 02:41 PM
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cottered conversion questions..

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Question: Do I have to replace the entire cotterless BB set in an old Raleigh frame I found with a completely new BB set up if I want to covert to a cottered crankset? If so, how do I do this properly? The cotterless crankset is from a 1978 Raleigh Superbe 3 speed (which I don't yet have spindle or cotters for).

and pics of my frame from a previous BF thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/436282-i-found-frame-trash-raleigh.html
I've been looking around for info but am very lost on this one!

Thanks for the help!

Alex

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Old 07-10-08 | 02:45 PM
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can it be so easy as finding the right size cottered spindle (just replace the spindle?) and how do I dtermine what the right size(s) is/are?

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Old 07-10-08 | 03:19 PM
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I'm confused, That is not a cottered crank. That is a standard square taper BB spindle. All you need is new crank arms. Unless you want to convert to a cottered BB.....
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I'm confused, That is not a cottered crank. That is a standard square taper BB spindle. All you need is new crank arms. Unless you want to convert to a cottered BB.....
Supergymnast is asking about converting from a cotterless crank to cottered.
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Old 07-10-08 | 03:27 PM
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no. the link above is to my frame which does have a cotterless bb w/ spindle. I want to put this(see link below) crankset on the frame:
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=290244827051
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Old 07-10-08 | 03:28 PM
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Thank you dirtdrop - exactly.
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Old 07-10-08 | 03:33 PM
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1st that isn't a Raleigh cotterless crankset. it is from a 2nd tier raleigh made bike(phillips, triumph, bsa). when I converted my cottered to a cotterless I just replacesd the spindle. maybe I got lucky but I think you should be able to do the same just backwards. why you want to do this I don't know.........
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Old 07-10-08 | 03:40 PM
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I just removed the spindle from the frame - across the middle of spindle it says:
Japan
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Cr-Mo
84 -B

On the plastic sleeve insert it says SUGINO
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Ha! I laugh because dirtdrop contributed to my previous thread.. we all spent a good amount of time trying to I.D. that frame. It's definatley a Raleigh based on headbadge holes... but the bb and headset... ??? and the exact year and model??

So I would need to figure out the the proper size of a new cottered spindle - maybe I should bring this in to my LBS?

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Old 07-10-08 | 03:50 PM
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am I really that nuts for wanting to go cottered? The crankset I want I like, and it was made for a raleigh three speed and has the raleigh crest stamped on the arms...plus 46t is what I need and if I ever wanted to go single speed for a spell 46t is perfect for me.
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Old 07-10-08 | 04:06 PM
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I hope I get lucky too.
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Old 07-10-08 | 05:33 PM
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am I really that nuts for wanting to go cottered?
Yes
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