chewybrian 

I am looking at a Pinarello, Ebay Item number: 190241593784 (my comp. will not let me copy the link).

It seems like a somewhat plain, but nice, solid frame from a top notch builder, but...

Why doesn't it have a chrome fork? (It has been repainted; that could explain-that hurts value either way, no?) Why are the components mostly Suntour? Is this a stock, low end model from a great framebuilder, or a Frankenbike? It's not one of those "He sold his name to Huffy, so any bike made after 19XX makes a nice lawn ornament..." deals, eh? Is it worth the price, more, less, general opinions?

thanks

bbattle

It's an early '80's bike and the Treviso did not have a chrome fork. Columbus Tretubi(main tubes chromoly, stays not)

check out this recent thread. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/448521-id-83-pinarello-pic.html there's a link to some Pinarello catalogs from the 80's: '81, '85, '87.

My '84 Treviso is HERE

A recent Treviso frame similar to mine sold on eBay for $395. I paid $125 for mine last year.

chewybrian 

BB,
Thanks, but I did read that thread, which left me confused. Someone said all bikes were marked Treviso, because that is where they were made. This is, in fact, the model? Yours does have chrome forks and fancy lugs. That is what prompted my post.
The $300ish value is just for the frame, or complete bike?
What puzzled me most was the components. All the closed sales I saw on Ebay had full Campy... Would Suntour be consistent with this model? All told, what is the value of the complete bike, ball park? I can handle riding a low-end Ferrari for the right price, but I don't want to be seen in one of those kit cars with a VW bug frame and engine. So, anyone guess which one this is?

chewybrian 

Addition:
I navigated the unmarked links until finding the correct catalog. It is a fine match on the paint job, but the parts are Frankenbike. It should have had Campy, as I thought. Probably a good rider with Suntour, or I could try to find original parts over time, but I can't see meeting the 'buy it now' price as constructed thanks again, BB

CardiacKid

Pinarello would put any components on their bikes that you wanted. That bike looks more like a Veneto than a Treviso. Venetos did not have any chrome. They were the low end of the Pinarello line, but they were still Pinarellos. I don't think it is worth $650. I sold mine last year for about $500. It had late 80s mid-range Campy. I never figured out what model, but they were not nearly as good in real life as the comparable Suntour or Shimano groups of the period. Serious cyclists, who wanted performance more than status, frequently chose Suntour over Campy, during that time period. so I wouldn't be put off by the suntour drivetrain.

chewybrian 

Thanks, Kid. I doubt I could tell the difference. Like I said, I suspect it would ride well as is. But I want to recoup my money when I upgrade, so I shop carefully. Stock means more value, unless it's a big upgrade, I would think. Campy seems to draw buyers' attention anyway, better or not. If I was buying to ride it for years and years, different story. Interesting take; I have read the same about Suntour before.

CardiacKid

If you are looking for wall art, you are definitely looking at the wrong bike. If you are looking to flip it, you should definitely stay away from Ebay. With millions of people looking at every auction, the chances of selling it for a profit a month later are pretty slim. Every bike I have ever bought, I intended on riding for years and years. The problem is I keep finding other bikes I intend on riding for years and years. I sell my bikes for more than I paid, but when you consider the amount of time involved, it comes out to much less than the minimum wage. If you want to make money, get a 2nd job at 7-11, it pays much better. Or buy gas pipe frames and turn them into fixies.

chewybrian 

Yes, I totally get your point. I don't want to make money. I want a decent vintage roadie as a second, fun bike, until I stumble accross the one to keep for years. I just don't want to get caught upside down $300 for a few months of riding it. Shipping and/or gas to go look makes flipping bikes an undesirable for-profit venture, I would say (even if I was vintage savvy...). I am in it for fun. It a dangerous maze of mis-information and half truth out there, but I guess the struggle and mystery are part of the apppeal. thanks again.