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Old 11-03-08 | 03:18 PM
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Was there a hanger that was chopped off of it?

What is more, the guides are located for right-front/left-rear brake routing. Interesting.

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Yeah, not clear to me that there was ever a hanger on that dropout. Is it even a PX 10? I did have a gaspipe Jeunet once with no hanger, no axle setscrew Simplex dropouts and those look very similar.

The guides are located for conventional brake lever connection if the levers are aero levers. The rear brake cable works a lot better if it goes arond the headtube.
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Old 11-03-08 | 06:33 PM
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Most likely, the cable stops are on the left side of the toptube simply because he wanted to use sidepull brakes.

The stop has been filed off of the chainstay. I think that someone wanted to build a single speed or fixed gear with brakes or perhaps use an internal gear hub.

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Old 11-03-08 | 11:38 PM
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don't know if i'd really trust the metal in a welded frame anymore, if it really was welded rather than brazed.

maybe OK if it was a TIG i guess. someone once told me that some kinds of welding are nicer than otehrs for thin steel parts, and don't do as much damage as they're so localised heat-wise (was it TIG? Can't remember). i'm no welding expert though, but still... seems weird to weld when brazing is much nicer on the metal.
The pictures are bad, but it is clear enough to someone that knows what they are looking at that it was brazed. Tig welding would have produced a much more interesting heat affected zone. It is possible to safely tig something like this. MIG and stick wouldn't work, and anybody could tell if that had been done. It wasn't

What I would do on a job like this is to take the torch and burn off the paint. Then I would sand the tube and braze things together. Lots of people do brazing repairs and leave the paint restoration to the owner. Owner didn't follow through in this case, that hardly makes it a hack job.

I think that if someone is going to hack up a frame to put fixed gear on it, a frame where the seat stay has broken off, and has been ridden so much that the paint is worn through by the rider's knees is as good of a candidate as you are ever going to find.

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Gah, that's a hack job, alright. I'd don't normally advise repaint, but in this case, yes.
I'm really curious how you propose to fix a broken frame without a repaint. Seems like there is money in that.

Richard Sachs has a page called "how frames are made." People should probably go look at that before they comment about an un-painted repair. Raw brazed frames before cleanup are nasty looking. In fact, paint hides a lot of flaws even after cleanup.

Here is an example:

https://www.strawberrybicycle.com/gal...d=DR_frame_019

and another

And those bikes turn out to be stunning in my opinion.

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Old 11-04-08 | 01:11 AM
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It was obviously some ones project and hopefully i will get to finish it.
I am bidding on a stronglight bottom bracket, mafac 2000 brakes, and the original simplex seat post.
Finding a fork will be tough and i may end up finding a 1" winwood CF easier than the reynolds fork for a 62cm frame.
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Old 11-04-08 | 01:20 AM
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Finding a fork will be tough and i may end up finding a 1" winwood CF easier than the reynolds fork for a 62cm frame.
Get one of these threadless Hawley USA-distributed forks from your LBS, and have it threaded down, if you wish - otherwise, keep it threadless:

https://hawleyusa.com/Webstore/ItemDe...spx?KitsMode=0

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Old 11-04-08 | 01:37 AM
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Thanks Kurt- definitely an option.

since it seems to be a commission bike i guess i could get away with painting it any colour as long as i get the original decals on there. I am partial to orange though.
next on list is a stronglight crankset
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Old 11-04-08 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PDXaero
Finding a fork will be tough
they show up on ebay all the time.....
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Old 11-04-08 | 08:48 AM
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I am partial to orange though.
As far as I can tell orange was an option.....
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Old 11-05-08 | 11:08 AM
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White was a lot more common, but I have seen plenty of orange Peugeots.
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Old 11-05-08 | 11:46 AM
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OK, like i said I'm no expert! brazing i know uses a large flame, TIG a small one..

ride in confidence after painting, then.
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Old 11-05-08 | 02:49 PM
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White was a lot more common, but I have seen plenty of orange Peugeots.
I can't remember ever seeing a Peugeot above UO-8 level in orange.
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