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04-24-10, 05:30 PM
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Another gear catch today. One of my favorite thrift stores had shoes on sale today. Picked up this pair o SIDI road shoes, in my size. 49 cents.
04-24-10, 05:48 PM
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Disraeli Gears
Here's the starting point for my custom randonneur frame ;^)
Campy 1010 long rear with fender eyelets. There are some more on eBay. I don't really have such a frame project, I just bought them because I like the look and idea of them; but you never know where that will lead.
Campy 1010 long rear with fender eyelets. There are some more on eBay. I don't really have such a frame project, I just bought them because I like the look and idea of them; but you never know where that will lead.
04-24-10, 07:29 PM
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Mountain Bike Finds and Bottom Brackets
Here are 2 of the 3 mountains bikes I've found lately, a Trek 830, a Gary Fisher Tarpon, and (not pictured) a GT All Terra. I normally look for road bikes, but these were too hard to pass up, about $25 each. I'm not that familiar with mtb's, usually aim for road bikes, and, in the process, learned the difference between a better mtb (the Trek) and an ok mtb (the Gary Fisher and the GT).
But I have a question about mtb's and bottom brackets. I've picked up quite a few road bikes but never picked one up that had a major bottom bracket issue beyond repacking the bearings, but 2 of the 3 mtb's needed a complete replacement. The Gary Fisher, which looked like it had been barely ridden, and the Trek, which looked like it had been fished out of a river at one point, both had bearings and bearing cages chewed up and trying to roll around in the bottom bracket. On the Trek it was obvious that someone had cross-threaded the fixed cup, so they could never adjust it correctly, and on the Gary Fisher the bottom bracket was full of rust, loose and wiggly, like it had never been adjusted correctly right from the factory. (The reason I think it might be a factory issue is amount of force it took to remove the cranks, like they had never been pulled before.) So is this a common problem, or just my annecdotal experience? Or even more important, when I'm dealing on a mtb, should I be more ruthless, expecting them to have been abused?
As you can see, I've already replaced the bottom bracket on the Trek (threadless, seems to be working well), and I have a new bottom bracket ordered for the Gary Fisher, but maybe I should have bargained harder, just expecting problems.
I always, always appreciate your sage advice.
Bob Johannes
But I have a question about mtb's and bottom brackets. I've picked up quite a few road bikes but never picked one up that had a major bottom bracket issue beyond repacking the bearings, but 2 of the 3 mtb's needed a complete replacement. The Gary Fisher, which looked like it had been barely ridden, and the Trek, which looked like it had been fished out of a river at one point, both had bearings and bearing cages chewed up and trying to roll around in the bottom bracket. On the Trek it was obvious that someone had cross-threaded the fixed cup, so they could never adjust it correctly, and on the Gary Fisher the bottom bracket was full of rust, loose and wiggly, like it had never been adjusted correctly right from the factory. (The reason I think it might be a factory issue is amount of force it took to remove the cranks, like they had never been pulled before.) So is this a common problem, or just my annecdotal experience? Or even more important, when I'm dealing on a mtb, should I be more ruthless, expecting them to have been abused?
As you can see, I've already replaced the bottom bracket on the Trek (threadless, seems to be working well), and I have a new bottom bracket ordered for the Gary Fisher, but maybe I should have bargained harder, just expecting problems.
I always, always appreciate your sage advice.
Bob Johannes
04-24-10, 07:33 PM
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This is just an amazing bike and the find I am dreaming of. I'll be looking for a Mercian at every garage sale.
04-24-10, 08:05 PM
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Thanks and good job on your find. Although it's fun being in the race to get the gems first, I think it is a much greater feeling to rescue a bike from oblivion like you just did. Nice workspace by the way, I'm jealous.
Coloryan,
Nice catch on that Mercian! Stunning lugwork, I must say. As far as cleaning, I'm of the old school mechanic mindset that uses lemon furniture polish on everything. I've never seen it affect any decals or paintwork on any bicycle I've used it on. Leaves a nice, almost waxed, appearance. Smells nice, too, and will cut through about any grease/oil you'd normally find on a bicycle.
Nice catch on that Mercian! Stunning lugwork, I must say. As far as cleaning, I'm of the old school mechanic mindset that uses lemon furniture polish on everything. I've never seen it affect any decals or paintwork on any bicycle I've used it on. Leaves a nice, almost waxed, appearance. Smells nice, too, and will cut through about any grease/oil you'd normally find on a bicycle.
ColoRyan, that Mercian is one special frame. As for the rest of it...personally, I would pull the parts and toss them in your spares bin, and find a suitable set of SR/Suntour parts to go on it if you're on a budget, or Campy NR if you're not, and set it up as a sports tourer, which is what it originally was.
The seatpost looks like an Avocet. Be careful with the Avocet cranks, I broke a number of them back in the day. You're missing a chainring bolt anyway.
The seatpost looks like an Avocet. Be careful with the Avocet cranks, I broke a number of them back in the day. You're missing a chainring bolt anyway.
I don't normally post my finds but I enjoy looking at them here because it reminds me that it is possible to get a great bike on a budget. I'm glad I was able to contribute. Keep looking, I'm sure you'll find one or similar in time.
04-24-10, 08:08 PM
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Here are 2 of the 3 mountains bikes I've found lately, a Trek 830, a Gary Fisher Tarpon, and (not pictured) a GT All Terra. I normally look for road bikes, but these were too hard to pass up, about $25 each. I'm not that familiar with mtb's, usually aim for road bikes, and, in the process, learned the difference between a better mtb (the Trek) and an ok mtb (the Gary Fisher and the GT).
But I have a question about mtb's and bottom brackets. I've picked up quite a few road bikes but never picked one up that had a major bottom bracket issue beyond repacking the bearings, but 2 of the 3 mtb's needed a complete replacement. The Gary Fisher, which looked like it had been barely ridden, and the Trek, which looked like it had been fished out of a river at one point, both had bearings and bearing cages chewed up and trying to roll around in the bottom bracket. On the Trek it was obvious that someone had cross-threaded the fixed cup, so they could never adjust it correctly, and on the Gary Fisher the bottom bracket was full of rust, loose and wiggly, like it had never been adjusted correctly right from the factory. (The reason I think it might be a factory issue is amount of force it took to remove the cranks, like they had never been pulled before.) So is this a common problem, or just my annecdotal experience? Or even more important, when I'm dealing on a mtb, should I be more ruthless, expecting them to have been abused?
As you can see, I've already replaced the bottom bracket on the Trek (threadless, seems to be working well), and I have a new bottom bracket ordered for the Gary Fisher, but maybe I should have bargained harder, just expecting problems.
I always, always appreciate your sage advice.
Bob Johannes
But I have a question about mtb's and bottom brackets. I've picked up quite a few road bikes but never picked one up that had a major bottom bracket issue beyond repacking the bearings, but 2 of the 3 mtb's needed a complete replacement. The Gary Fisher, which looked like it had been barely ridden, and the Trek, which looked like it had been fished out of a river at one point, both had bearings and bearing cages chewed up and trying to roll around in the bottom bracket. On the Trek it was obvious that someone had cross-threaded the fixed cup, so they could never adjust it correctly, and on the Gary Fisher the bottom bracket was full of rust, loose and wiggly, like it had never been adjusted correctly right from the factory. (The reason I think it might be a factory issue is amount of force it took to remove the cranks, like they had never been pulled before.) So is this a common problem, or just my annecdotal experience? Or even more important, when I'm dealing on a mtb, should I be more ruthless, expecting them to have been abused?
As you can see, I've already replaced the bottom bracket on the Trek (threadless, seems to be working well), and I have a new bottom bracket ordered for the Gary Fisher, but maybe I should have bargained harder, just expecting problems.
I always, always appreciate your sage advice.
Bob Johannes
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04-24-10, 08:21 PM
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Trek MTBs always get a good response around here. I have also had some of the better Gary Fishers (not the Tarpon). I recently had a GT as well, they made several different models that are labeled All Terra. The actual model name is on the top tube. Some of the GTs were pretty decent.
I have picked up many MTBs. Almost all of them have been in really good shape and not abused at all. Around here, people often use MTBs as neighborhood recreational rides. On the ones picked up at thrift stores, they tend to be in better shape than the road bikes.
You need to be really careful on spending on MTBs if you are buying them as flips. There just isn't much room for margin on them, even if you get them cheap. I tend to pick up a few $5 to $10 donors to help control parts spending.
I have picked up many MTBs. Almost all of them have been in really good shape and not abused at all. Around here, people often use MTBs as neighborhood recreational rides. On the ones picked up at thrift stores, they tend to be in better shape than the road bikes.
You need to be really careful on spending on MTBs if you are buying them as flips. There just isn't much room for margin on them, even if you get them cheap. I tend to pick up a few $5 to $10 donors to help control parts spending.
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04-24-10, 09:01 PM
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The Gt is a "Tempest," aluminum frame, in nice condition. The only problem it has is with the shifters, and they are a mystery to me why they don't work, even after a thorough cleaning. It has lovely Shimano wheels that shine like new and that I know I could swap to another bike. I love fixing bikes, so each one is a little adventure.
04-24-10, 09:16 PM
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I was surprized by the Gary Fisher, a very comfortable and easy ride, but the chain rings were just pressed metal, rivetted together. The frame and the rest of the components seem very nice--why be cheap with the drive train? It's no heavier than the Trek, and just as agile.
I agree, donors are the trick. I keep lots of spare parts in the garage, and the local junkyard is always a good source for seats, cables, cable housings, wheels and tires, brake parts, etc. When I give the owner $1-5 and tell him I didn't have to drive to town for parts, he's always happy. Last summer everyone was throwing away great bikes. I found in the junkyard a mint Panasonic DX-5000, ready to ride (my prize find), a Bottechia mixte, an old BSA 3-speed, and a Belgian "American Arrow." I missed a beautiful Schwinn World Traveller--bent in the pile, but I grabbed the front wheel.
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I agree, donors are the trick. I keep lots of spare parts in the garage, and the local junkyard is always a good source for seats, cables, cable housings, wheels and tires, brake parts, etc. When I give the owner $1-5 and tell him I didn't have to drive to town for parts, he's always happy. Last summer everyone was throwing away great bikes. I found in the junkyard a mint Panasonic DX-5000, ready to ride (my prize find), a Bottechia mixte, an old BSA 3-speed, and a Belgian "American Arrow." I missed a beautiful Schwinn World Traveller--bent in the pile, but I grabbed the front wheel.
Every hunter loves to share stories.
04-25-10, 08:35 AM
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Just got this yesterday. She's a tall one!
Vista Silver Shadow
lugged frame/araya 1435 tubes
made in japan for nida
shimano altus lt components
dia compe brakes
araya wheels
Vista Silver Shadow
lugged frame/araya 1435 tubes
made in japan for nida
shimano altus lt components
dia compe brakes
araya wheels
04-25-10, 08:40 AM
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The Gt is a "Tempest," aluminum frame, in nice condition. The only problem it has is with the shifters, and they are a mystery to me why they don't work, even after a thorough cleaning. It has lovely Shimano wheels that shine like new and that I know I could swap to another bike. I love fixing bikes, so each one is a little adventure.
04-25-10, 10:39 AM
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I was at the flea market, about to give up. It's been dry of decent bikes for a LONG time. I saw one I didn't see before, though I had passed by the same booth several times. Anyway, I have no earthly idea of the brand?
It has riser bars and SR stem, Tange Levin headset, NGS Campy deraillers(front broken), a set of clamp on Shimano friction shifters I've never seen before, early eighties Shimano 600 cranks and nutted 600 brakes.
For the frame, no bottle cage braze ons, cable guides, etc. Cutout lugs with heart shapes, Shimano dropouts(odd for a frame this age?) I am thinking it may be some sort of Romic maybe, possibly a Fuji? It has rainbow seat tube stripes, which seems to be the only thing the previous owner didn't paint over.
A strange find to be sure, but WTH is it?? Best part was the price, $25...
S/N is on the bottom bracket, and is 1045751577,,,,BD
It has riser bars and SR stem, Tange Levin headset, NGS Campy deraillers(front broken), a set of clamp on Shimano friction shifters I've never seen before, early eighties Shimano 600 cranks and nutted 600 brakes.
For the frame, no bottle cage braze ons, cable guides, etc. Cutout lugs with heart shapes, Shimano dropouts(odd for a frame this age?) I am thinking it may be some sort of Romic maybe, possibly a Fuji? It has rainbow seat tube stripes, which seems to be the only thing the previous owner didn't paint over.
A strange find to be sure, but WTH is it?? Best part was the price, $25...
S/N is on the bottom bracket, and is 1045751577,,,,BD
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04-25-10, 11:30 AM
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One brake lever is held on with electrical tape
Funky seat post that I think is backwards?
It has the prerequisite lock with no key too
Definitely not the original derailleur, and for some reason the rear skewer lever is Suntour but somebody at least saved the Campy nut
The Avocet cranks are beautiful
And the best part of all, it's my size! There's no way I could purchase a frame like this for full price anytime in the near future, so this is a wonderful find for me.
I'm sure a lot of purists cringe to see a handmade bike like this in this kind of shape, but I love it. Instead of being left in a garage or on a wall the previous owner adapted the bike to their needs and actually used it for what it was meant to be used for, getting from point A to point B. I plan to do the same thing. I'm thinking of a Brooks saddle and some Wald 867 cruiser bars, single speed to the farmer's market. The seller did their research and knew what these retailed for, yet only asked $20. Thanks Tim, I will cherish it, maybe even for the rest of my life.
Anybody have any tips for how to clean the frame without hurting the paint or decals?
04-25-10, 03:23 PM
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This is my best find ever, just got it yesterday, and I thought it was pretty neat I got it on Earth Day. I had never even heard of Mercian. I think those are track bars; I never thought the first time I'd see track bars they'd be in a commuter setup.
Funky seat post that I think is backwards?
Funky seat post that I think is backwards?
04-25-10, 05:22 PM
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I got some catches today at the New Paltz swap today.
Two sets of Campagnolo MTB cranks with one set of pedals
One crank set is less used than the other.
Specialized StreetStomper for $50. It's a rider, and it's cleaning up VERY nicely.
And a worn CODA road compact double
Two sets of Campagnolo MTB cranks with one set of pedals
One crank set is less used than the other.Specialized StreetStomper for $50. It's a rider, and it's cleaning up VERY nicely.
And a worn CODA road compact double
04-25-10, 05:27 PM
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This is my best find ever, just got it yesterday, and I thought it was pretty neat I got it on Earth Day. I had never even heard of Mercian. I think those are track bars; I never thought the first time I'd see track bars they'd be in a commuter setup.
Anybody have any tips for how to clean the frame without hurting the paint or decals?
Anybody have any tips for how to clean the frame without hurting the paint or decals?
-Spray it with a cleaner like Simple Green, Awesome, Fantastik or the like.
-Then gently go over it with a soft scrub brush. A tooth brush can get into hard to reach places.
-Use the garden hose to rinse it off again.
-Use Turtle Wax polishing compound* (white paste -- about $2) on a dampened cloth. Apply gently and carefully.
-Use Turtle Wax rubbing compound* (red paste -- about $2) on a very dampened cloth for really rough spots. Be extremely careful to not wear away the paint.
-Wipe it down with a towel
-Polish with car wax.
Just did this with a road bike bike from the '70s that was coated in some serious schmutz. Looked horrible. Looks like new now. I was lucky and didn't find many scratches at all under the schmutz!
*Alternate: use an auto finish restorer
04-25-10, 06:45 PM
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Scratch and dent sale at REI today. Last trip I landed a new set of 50/39/30 Octalinks with the BB off a bike damaged in shipping. This time a set of Dirt drops with 9speed bar ends, Tekro brake levers, stem and wrapped in Brooks tape. The Tape will end up on my 98 T700 to go with the Honey saddle. That bike was suppose to be my all weather but with the Leather bar tape it will be my fair weather rider. Time to put fenders on the T700 or build that Disc Brake commuter with the CX Nashbar frame I been thinking about.
The shifters may end up on the 95 for now. The Right brifter is flaky. I pulled it apart because it was jamming. Chunk of broken off spring metal popped out. I think it is some of the tension spring. Have to wrap your fingers around brake before you can get it to down shift with the small paddle.
Not sure where the Dirt drops will land..Maybe the 95, Maybe the shelf for when I build the disc commuter.
The shifters may end up on the 95 for now. The Right brifter is flaky. I pulled it apart because it was jamming. Chunk of broken off spring metal popped out. I think it is some of the tension spring. Have to wrap your fingers around brake before you can get it to down shift with the small paddle.
Not sure where the Dirt drops will land..Maybe the 95, Maybe the shelf for when I build the disc commuter.
04-25-10, 06:48 PM
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Nice looking bike, I really like the older Specialized.
04-25-10, 08:09 PM
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rescued from the trash a few weeks ago! obviously needs some work.
04-25-10, 10:52 PM
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not so C&V, but some good catches from this weekend's swap meet. will all likely find their way on a C&V build at some point.
7700 DA FD $5.
10spd 6600 cassette low miles $15
Mavic open pro rim, hugi hub, continental grand prix tire (85% life) and tube: for the price of a new tube ($5).
7700 DA FD $5.
10spd 6600 cassette low miles $15
Mavic open pro rim, hugi hub, continental grand prix tire (85% life) and tube: for the price of a new tube ($5).
04-26-10, 09:31 AM
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I didn't find to much yard sailing this weekend in the way of bicycles, but I scored about a $1000 worth of power tools from a builder that was moving for $80. I found a Mongoose BMX that was hardly ridden and has a little surface rust in the trash and I traded a gas scooter that I paid $20 for a Bianchi Main Street ,It looks like one of their cheaper bikes but everything works good and it will just need a service. It has lower end Suntour components, Dia Compe canti brakes and Araya wide rims in 700c.
I pumped up the tires and adjusted the seat post and bars and was riding it around ( Mongoose) It has alloy rims, hubs and seat post and the tires still have the little nubs on them.
I pumped up the tires and adjusted the seat post and bars and was riding it around ( Mongoose) It has alloy rims, hubs and seat post and the tires still have the little nubs on them.
04-26-10, 10:07 AM
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Bicycle Repair Man !!!
Was volunteering at the coop on Saturday and hooked up with a fellow collector... we had a nice chat about old bikes and obscure parts and he went home and returned with 3 sets of EA1 tyres for my Raleigh, a pair of 27 inch racing tyres (Clement !), and brought a box full of ancient derailleurs for show and tell.
This was stuff most of us will only see in pictures and on CV (he contributes there) and he said that I should pop by and see his Cambio Corsa equipped bicycle and his collection of vintage CCM racing bikes that date back to the 30's.
If anyone has used that little CCM date code sheet scan to identify an old CCM you can thank him as he was the one who collected the data from old CCM tech manuals and compiled the list.
I will be bringing my camera when I stop by his bike museum.
This was stuff most of us will only see in pictures and on CV (he contributes there) and he said that I should pop by and see his Cambio Corsa equipped bicycle and his collection of vintage CCM racing bikes that date back to the 30's.
If anyone has used that little CCM date code sheet scan to identify an old CCM you can thank him as he was the one who collected the data from old CCM tech manuals and compiled the list.
I will be bringing my camera when I stop by his bike museum.
04-26-10, 02:06 PM
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Was volunteering at the coop on Saturday and hooked up with a fellow collector... we had a nice chat about old bikes and obscure parts and he went home and returned with 3 sets of EA1 tyres for my Raleigh, a pair of 27 inch racing tyres (Clement !), and brought a box full of ancient derailleurs for show and tell.
This was stuff most of us will only see in pictures and on CV (he contributes there) and he said that I should pop by and see his Cambio Corsa equipped bicycle and his collection of vintage CCM racing bikes that date back to the 30's.
If anyone has used that little CCM date code sheet scan to identify an old CCM you can thank him as he was the one who collected the data from old CCM tech manuals and compiled the list.
I will be bringing my camera when I stop by his bike museum.
This was stuff most of us will only see in pictures and on CV (he contributes there) and he said that I should pop by and see his Cambio Corsa equipped bicycle and his collection of vintage CCM racing bikes that date back to the 30's.
If anyone has used that little CCM date code sheet scan to identify an old CCM you can thank him as he was the one who collected the data from old CCM tech manuals and compiled the list.
I will be bringing my camera when I stop by his bike museum.
04-26-10, 08:31 PM
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Picked up another bike tonight. 1972 (so the hub says) Raleigh Sports. Not quite as nice shape as my green 76 Sports so this one will become my bad weather city bike. I've never seen a white Sports before, I really like it.
04-26-10, 08:38 PM
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Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
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With a B72 saddle!
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Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.