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Great catch! [MENTION=401497]RiddleOfSteel[/MENTION] !
Are you contemplating getting a new steerer welded to the original fork ? For a Paramount I would.
Are you contemplating getting a new steerer welded to the original fork ? For a Paramount I would.
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The steerer has the serial number stamped into it, and it matches the serial stamped on the Campy rear dropout. R&E can replace the whole thing for a modest sum, but charge extra if the fork has been chromed. I need to email them and figure out what everything would entail, but the price is fine to me considering it is a Paramount. I would also have to see about a timeline for completion as I believe they are limiting frame repairs at the moment (only so many employees, I think, and the work is divided elsewhere). I would keep the original steerer as part of the history of the bike as well.
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I am! That was essentially my first thought--keep it as original frame-wise as possible. There is a place here in Seattle, R&E Cycles (Rodriguez and Erickson Cycles) who are well-known in the area (at least) for custom bicycles, and they offer frame repair and nicely had prices online to get a good idea of what it would cost to repair a fork like my Paramount's.
The steerer has the serial number stamped into it, and it matches the serial stamped on the Campy rear dropout. R&E can replace the whole thing for a modest sum, but charge extra if the fork has been chromed. I need to email them and figure out what everything would entail, but the price is fine to me considering it is a Paramount. I would also have to see about a timeline for completion as I believe they are limiting frame repairs at the moment (only so many employees, I think, and the work is divided elsewhere). I would keep the original steerer as part of the history of the bike as well.
The steerer has the serial number stamped into it, and it matches the serial stamped on the Campy rear dropout. R&E can replace the whole thing for a modest sum, but charge extra if the fork has been chromed. I need to email them and figure out what everything would entail, but the price is fine to me considering it is a Paramount. I would also have to see about a timeline for completion as I believe they are limiting frame repairs at the moment (only so many employees, I think, and the work is divided elsewhere). I would keep the original steerer as part of the history of the bike as well.
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I thought they could be cut to appropriate length and then sleeved to another cut steerer tube of appropriate diameter and length, since there is some wiggle room in your average head tube. IOW, leave a couple three inches of stub of the original steerer and braze on the sleeve and additional tube to get it to the right length.
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Nope. The Eclipse is one of a pair that I found for 99 cents(!) at a thrift shop about 20 years ago. This bike came with a really heavy, chrome plated, steel rack that I donated to a local bike rescue.
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I couldn't pass up this 1980 Motobecane Grand Touring which popped up for a song on the local CL. Other than the seat, it's catalog-spec complete, down to the Motobecane branded tires. Should clean up nicely with a little grease, a seat and tires.
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Hey, I just saw that on CL when looking up another old machine to post about. Good for you!
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I saw this bike last Tuesday at the local bike non-profit I volunteer at (Dfrost does, too) in the "as is" section, where bikes are usually $50 or less. Not going to find any Colnagos in there, but the occasional gem shows up. All chrome, which had initially caught my eye. And a Schwinn (one of a few companies that did it). I had to wait until Saturday to scoop it up via car, but I was able to read the Julian year date stamp on the head badge and it was a 1977. Further Schwinn catalog scans (love pouring through those--priceless resource) revealed it was a Super Le Tour 12.2 as the name had been scratched/eroded off this original example. Chroming was a $50(!) option at the time.
$40 later she was mine, with full expectation of donating back and/or disposing of totally toast parts and doing massive amounts of work getting the surface rust off the chrome. Once home, I adjusted the saddle, aired up the tires, and put on a freewheel (13-19T Dura Ace...lol) and gave it a test ride. Provided the century wasn't demanding terrain-wise, this could ace it as it. But now, it is fully disassembled and being restored, destined for greatness and I am very happy with it (but not how laborious it's been--oh well, I will persevere).
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RUST. Dang it. Conquerable, but it's not going to be easy.

$40 later she was mine, with full expectation of donating back and/or disposing of totally toast parts and doing massive amounts of work getting the surface rust off the chrome. Once home, I adjusted the saddle, aired up the tires, and put on a freewheel (13-19T Dura Ace...lol) and gave it a test ride. Provided the century wasn't demanding terrain-wise, this could ace it as it. But now, it is fully disassembled and being restored, destined for greatness and I am very happy with it (but not how laborious it's been--oh well, I will persevere).

As found:

RUST. Dang it. Conquerable, but it's not going to be easy.

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I have a build thread for this one, but I thought I'd post it here. My neighbor had this in his bulk trash pile one day and let me take it. He is the original owner and was excited to see someone take an interest in it.
Undecided on bar tape, and the finish is deliberately rough right now, but everything except wheelset, stem, and bars (and consumables) is original. The original stem was an Ava that had cracked. I also replaced the rear derailleur, which was a Huret Allvit with cracked pulleys -- the Suntour GT was an easy and cheap upgrade...

As acquired:
Undecided on bar tape, and the finish is deliberately rough right now, but everything except wheelset, stem, and bars (and consumables) is original. The original stem was an Ava that had cracked. I also replaced the rear derailleur, which was a Huret Allvit with cracked pulleys -- the Suntour GT was an easy and cheap upgrade...

As acquired:
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Ha, I was wondering who bought this. It was a good deal and pretty close to my size. As much as I love chrome frames, I am up to about 8 bikes right now and couldn't justify it. I am second guessing myself, but happy it stayed in the "family." Add this to your paramount and you have had quite the luck at the co-op lately.
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I have a build thread for this one, but I thought I'd post it here. My neighbor had this in his bulk trash pile one day and let me take it. He is the original owner and was excited to see someone take an interest in it.
Undecided on bar tape, and the finish is deliberately rough right now, but everything except wheelset, stem, and bars (and consumables) is original. The original stem was an Ava that had cracked. I also replaced the rear derailleur, which was a Huret Allvit with cracked pulleys -- the Suntour GT was an easy and cheap upgrade...

As acquired:

Undecided on bar tape, and the finish is deliberately rough right now, but everything except wheelset, stem, and bars (and consumables) is original. The original stem was an Ava that had cracked. I also replaced the rear derailleur, which was a Huret Allvit with cracked pulleys -- the Suntour GT was an easy and cheap upgrade...

As acquired:

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A Trio of Vintage Bikes
These are bikes my grandparents had out in the barn for decades. Would like to sell them to a vintage collector who might put a few bucks into restoring two of them. The Peugeot is in great shape. They all are in original condition with NO parts missing. They are:
Peugot - looks like the HLE model for her
Motobecane - Its Frenchj (may have been a policeman's bike) for him
Dunelt - a true antique appears to be from the late 50's early 60's for her.
Happy to entertain all offers and will ship as instructed. Great forum, have learned much. Thanks. Lila Corso
Peugot - looks like the HLE model for her
Motobecane - Its Frenchj (may have been a policeman's bike) for him
Dunelt - a true antique appears to be from the late 50's early 60's for her.
Happy to entertain all offers and will ship as instructed. Great forum, have learned much. Thanks. Lila Corso
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My New Year's resolution was no more project bikes this year unless something special came along. Probably paid too much (again) but it was screaming my name............. Just the right size, favorite color, paint and decals not terrible and definitely the only one in my County. It will be a rider so I didn't need it to be mint. Near as I can tell it's a 1984, maybe a year or 2 newer. With this addition there will be a couple Schwinns, a Fuji or 2 and a few others looking for new homes in the next few weeks.




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My New Year's resolution was no more project bikes this year unless something special came along. Probably paid too much (again) but it was screaming my name............. Just the right size, favorite color, paint and decals not terrible and definitely the only one in my County. It will be a rider so I didn't need it to be mint. Near as I can tell it's a 1984, maybe a year or 2 newer. With this addition there will be a couple Schwinns, a Fuji or 2 and a few others looking for new homes in the next few weeks.






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Was helping out a bike co-op last Wednesday and heard the magic words "Schwinn Paramount" and turned around to see this (albeit with more parts on it). Pretty much the most bizarre bike I've ever disassembled, and it came with a 1" threaded carbon fork. Nashbar-branded Micro-shift levers, bent Cinelli 64s angled up with tape wadded on the tops of the bars (the proverbial "hobo bike" setup), Nashbar brake calipers, Deore RD, original Campagnolo FD, and finally a Campagnolo Record Strada 54-46-36 triple crankset in grubby but good shape. Everything was loose and/or not installed properly. The original fork had its steerer threads cut off inexplicably (and tragically!).
Picked the bike up last Saturday as I had a car to do so, and to confirm my suspicions that it was indeed a 25" frame (my size). 1967 Paramount P-13 built in March with good chrome(!), shot paint, no dents(!), and all straight. $75 got me the frame, most of a fork, a Campagnolo headset, the FD, and some other Campagnolo cable stops and guides. I finally get a Paramount!!!
There will be a build thread on this, and it will take a while to repair and repaint etc, but I have a good idea of what I want to build (keep it C&V) with it. I am excited. Patience...

Picked the bike up last Saturday as I had a car to do so, and to confirm my suspicions that it was indeed a 25" frame (my size). 1967 Paramount P-13 built in March with good chrome(!), shot paint, no dents(!), and all straight. $75 got me the frame, most of a fork, a Campagnolo headset, the FD, and some other Campagnolo cable stops and guides. I finally get a Paramount!!!
There will be a build thread on this, and it will take a while to repair and repaint etc, but I have a good idea of what I want to build (keep it C&V) with it. I am excited. Patience...
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