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Old 01-01-09 | 01:19 PM
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the script-logo replaced the older record brakes. they have several differences...they only come in allen nut versions, the adjusting nuts are different, and most important, they have triangular cross section, instead of the roughly half-round cross section of the older calipers. I bought a whole group in 1984, and I think that this was the first year for general release of the new-style calipers...but the 50th group released in 1983 previewed this new style.

For what it is worth, I think that the new style works marginally better, but only marginally. Both styles are excellent stoppers...
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I see most of the details have been worked out. I will add that the BB is actually nuovo record because of the thick cups. My understanding is that the record BB had thin cups and a steel spindle, the nuovo record had thick cups. What say ye?
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Old 01-01-09 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
I believe the answer is that 1037's have steel cages. 1037A "Superleggero" pedals have aluminum cages - either silver or (more commonly) black ano.
Also, I believe the tapered center bolt nuts are correct for the circa 1983 and later "script logo" calipers with the more triangular profile on the OP's bike. At least the set on my Trek 170 has them.
+1, Picchio got there first!

I agree with everything he says - I've got the same brakes with tapered bolts and 1037A (Aluminium caged) pedals on one of my bikes. The Super Record pedals are the ones with titanium spindles - much lighter and naturally more expensive.

Looks like you got yourself a brilliant deal! What a great way to start the New Year!
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Old 01-01-09 | 03:57 PM
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I see most of the details have been worked out. I will add that the BB is actually nuovo record because of the thick cups. My understanding is that the record BB had thin cups and a steel spindle, the nuovo record had thick cups. What say ye?
I'm going to assume that the recessed area on the fixed cup indicates thicker cups. That's what I see in the shop cup drawer, anyway. The thicker ones have rifling inside the axle hole, right? If this is so, then...

Using the pile'o'catalogs, I see in 1978 that no cups were thick. In 1982 only record and super record bottom brackets had cups with the recessed area, and the grand sport, etc, had thinner cups.

Oh, and I just figured out something else that has been bugging me for a long time (completely off topic)...when the one bolt super record seatpost came out, it had long flutes (1978 supplement). By 1982 the flutes were short. So, to answer a question from about four years ago, the long flutes are older.
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Old 01-01-09 | 05:33 PM
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The botton bracket that usually came with a SR groupset was the Nuovo Record bottom bracket - the one with the steel axle and the rifling in the cups - as on this bike. I think it was refered to as the 'reduced' Super Record groupset as the Super Record groupset had proven to be a bit fragile due to the titanium axle failures on the BB and earlier on the hub spindles. There is a popular photograph of Laurent Fignon on the ground just after his BB axle broke.

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