I picked up a bike today that seems to be mostly Record/Super Record. I'm going to be selling some of the parts so I want to be sure I've positively identified the parts before I sell them. Not everything I post here will be sold, I basically just want to make my $300 back and keep the rest. Anyway, let's start with this:



the only markings I can find on it say Pat.83. So thats the non titanium version of the SR?

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headset:



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https://www.brian-payne.com/gallery/m...serialNumber=1

record or SR? 1" threaded?

brakes. They look like the SR pic from velobase to me. Am I correct?



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crank seems to be SR since it's fluted. It has a "4" on the back of it.
Front der seems record since it doesnt have any black parts on it. I can get a better pic if needed.



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BB. It's hollow, so that means SR as well? Still have to get the other cup out when my friend returns my spanner tool.



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btw, the the lightest BB i've ever held. Crazy.

seat post is SR since it's fluted, correct? It's 27.2.




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shifters match the pic of the SR's on velobase, the non curved version. Righto?



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looks like a titanium sr rear derailleur to me. The bolts...do they stick to a magnet? The non-titanium bolt SR was a lot later, like the last gasp in about '87, I think. The rest of it is either Record or Super Record...and as a collected group, it would be called a Super Record Reduced (without Titanium BB or pedal spindles...urh, those bits are not Titanium, right?)

oh and, HAPPY NEW YEAR!

dont have a magnet at the moment, but I'll check later. The BB is picuted above. Velobase says the first gen sr bb is hollow and the second not, so I dont know what mine is, just that it's hollow. I kinda looks like the pic on velobase but not exactly

https://www.velobase.com/ViewSingleCo...50ff3&Enum=119

You have an SR headset. Record was steel. There really wasn't a Nuovo Record headset. Record Shifters. A super record one-bolt second generation seatpin. Super leggera pedals. Cinelli 1A stem. Probably Cinelli 64-40 handlebars, but that's a guess. Record BB unless it is Titanium. The other thing about super record bottom brackets, they used smaller bearings than the regular record. Record front derailleur (sr arms were black).

When I bought these brakes in '84 I ordered super record from BikePro, and this is what I got. I think that they are really Record, but, no one will argue with you calling them super record...

thanks. the bars are cinelli 42-66. I think the BB might be titanium but I'm really not sure how to tell, other than that it's light as heck.

also, are you sure on the shifters because they look exactly like the Sr one's listed here. Pic of mine are above.

https://www.velobase.com/ViewSingleCo...35a8e&Enum=104

I also have a set of the NR ones and they look exactly like the NR one's that are compared on the above link.

A magnet won't stick to non-ferrous materials. If you don't get stickage you can go ahead and get dollar signs in your eyes. An SR bottom bracket is expensive.

I have a bunch of shifters from this vintage...and maybe barring finish work there just isn't any difference that I can discern between SR and Record and Nuovo Record. I think that they shipped the same shifters with every group. (not nuovo grand sport...they had different mounting hardware).

I seem to be having problems with the shift key...HaPpY neWyEAR tO You, ONE AND ALL!

Oh, and that is a fantastic find...do you know what model that bike is?

Luker is spot-on as usual. The cranks, with the 4 on the back are probably 1984 record with SR chainrings. The rear derailleur is a 1983 version with a titanium bolt. The brakes are SR along with the seatpost. Pedals are superleggara (if they had a titanium spindle they would be SR (and expensive). Front derailleur is a record model as is the British threaded bottom bracket (if, as Luker says) if it has a steel spindle. Headset looks to be alloy which would make it SR and it's a road version. Brake cabling and rear derailleur outer casing look Campagnolo as well.

I guess I shouldnt have cut the cabling off eh? It has some holes in it in a few spots anyway and it wouldnt come out of the guides easily so I cut it. I wouldnt have wanted to reuse it anyway so I assumed no one else would. The rear metal outter casing i kept to go on my raleigh pro.

I found a magnet and the BB is steal. I tried it on some of the bolts on the rear der and it stuck. Not sure which one I should be checking for titanium, but the two larger allen bolts (one of them attached it to the dropout) were alloy or something because the magnet did not stick.

The bike is a '85 Cannondale sr900. The only info I've found on it was an original catalog that does break out which parts were used, but I wanted to be sure.

https://www.vintagecannondale.com/year/1985/1985.pdf

I guess I have to check the bolts on the pedals to see if they're titanium, but my garage isnt heated and it's 20 degrees out there so I wont be doing that until tomorrow.

I don't want to get this moved to vintage value inquiries, but does anyone have any info on the frame? It's aluminum and it's apparently the top of the line Cannondale racing frame for that year.It's a 57cm so to small for me and I'd love to find out a fair price for it. If asking that here will get this moved, please feel free to answer that in this thread and I'll delete the question here:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-bicycles-whats-worth-appraisals/498331-cannondale-sr900-300-a.html

Another funny thing is that the guy i bought this from was nice enough, and he mentioned to me that he races mountain bikes. I mentioned his name to a few friend of mine who race on an amatuer level and they know who he is. I did a google search and as it turns out he's a pro racer and apparently really good and pretty well known in those circles. I won't use his name here in case i'm not supposed to.

He told me that he purchased the bike from the original owner and that it hung in the garage most of the time except that guy took it down to lube everything all the time so he had to clean off a bunch of extra lube.

I did mention to him when I got that bike that it seemed like some of the parts were top end campy and that his price was "really good". He said he had a feeling that was the case, but we made the deal anyway. He actually tried to give me some new tires to go with the bike, but I told him to keep that as I think I was already getting a good enough deal. I'm really not in this for the money, I just saw an opportunity to get some decent parts for my projects and resale what I don't need.

Im actually starting to kinda feel bad about taking the bike apart and breaking it up. So far that isnt stopping me though.

Anyway, it was a good day.

oh and,here's all my pics of the bike including before i took it apart, in case anyone is interested:

Link

a little more info:

the bike originally had tubulars which the PO took off in favor of clinchers. Rear hub is Sun Mistral , the front is a dura ace. It's set up as 6 sp is the rear cog is shimano, not sure which model.

seat is cinelli and is suede but it kinda used looking.

what are those brake levers? nice find, btw

..edit: and you're right about the 'vintage value subforum'. an interesting thread about Mario Confente just got moved there, and now it is well below my radar.

thanks!

the levers arent original as far as I can tell, and they're Dia Compe. The hoods are in bad shape. They seem like nice levers for Dia Compe's but I wish they were campy

shifters: there wasn't a "nuovo record" vs "super record" set. Just an "earlier" and "later" version. You have the later version, used on both "record" groups up till C-Rec was released.

School me on the 3 pedal sets....

According to the Campy brochure the SR group consisted of #1037 with the option of upgrading to #4021.

1. Record #1037
2. Record Super Light #1037A
3. Super Record #4021

All 3 have different part numbers. SR's are easy because they have titanium spindles and a different size bearing. What differentiates Record #1037 from Record Super Light #1037A?

From what I can tell the difference between the Record and Super Record brakesets is solely in the levers. Both sets use the same part numbers for the calipers while the SR set uses driled levers. Whats odd to me is your calipers dont match the Record or SR calipers because yours have the tapered center bolt nuts.

When were they implimented?

I believe the answer is that 1037's have steel cages. 1037A "Superleggero" pedals have aluminum cages - either silver or (more commonly) black ano.
Also, I believe the tapered center bolt nuts are correct for the circa 1983 and later "script logo" calipers with the more triangular profile on the OP's bike. At least the set on my Trek 170 has them.

The brakes on -holiday's bike match those that came on my 86 Serotta Super Nova when I got it.