French ---- anyone?
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Not my size anyway, and the bike does appear to be in fine condition and likely a good deal for $99... But... I would be wary of purchasing any bike without seeing clear deailed photos. Those vague auction photos are like seeing photos of a car sitting in a driveway, and I like to step a bit closer, kick the tires and look under the hood a bit before offering money for anything. I also question the 1972 date. Wonder where that came from?
I would think that an original condition French bike from 1972 would absolutely NEVER have what appears on this bike to be brazed-on top tube rear brake cable guides & bottle cage bosses, possibly even downtube shifter bosses - my guess would be perhaps a decade later. The components cannot be seen clearly, so they could be anything from the very top to very lowest quality. Personally, if I were interested, I would request MANY more photos and with clear details, and would ask many more questions before offering even $20 for the bike. Good Luck.
I would think that an original condition French bike from 1972 would absolutely NEVER have what appears on this bike to be brazed-on top tube rear brake cable guides & bottle cage bosses, possibly even downtube shifter bosses - my guess would be perhaps a decade later. The components cannot be seen clearly, so they could be anything from the very top to very lowest quality. Personally, if I were interested, I would request MANY more photos and with clear details, and would ask many more questions before offering even $20 for the bike. Good Luck.
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I got some pics from the seller......He says it's made of Durifort tubing which I think is straight gage. Sorry the pics are small...
Last edited by kpug505; 02-18-09 at 08:41 PM.
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not necessarily straight-gage: this was the predecessor/parallel to Vitus tubing and came in different grades depending on the year. There's much to read regarding it in this CR archive:
https://search.bikelist.org/?SearchSt...ssicrendezvous
Looks like a nicely built frame with forged DOs, might be worth a gamble...if you're a gamblin' man
https://search.bikelist.org/?SearchSt...ssicrendezvous
Looks like a nicely built frame with forged DOs, might be worth a gamble...if you're a gamblin' man
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Those stronglight cranks were not available in the 70s. Could mean they were replaced, but it could mean otherwise.
Also that Rear DR wasnt available until the early 80s.
Notice a Trend?
Also that Rear DR wasnt available until the early 80s.
Notice a Trend?
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... 'bout them cranks...
I'm pretty sure those are Stronglight model 104 cranks, and I believe that logo design [the lettering above the fluting] was used from the late 1970s until around 1983. They used the same 122 mm. Bolt Circle Diameter as the earlier Stronglight mod. 93 cranks, but these had a more modern looking 5-arm spider, so more like a Campy crankset... only better [IMHO]- since those allowed inner chainrings down to 38 teeth. Nice quality, really.
Here is a catalogue page (from around 1984) - only difference is simply the newer Stronglight "crest" shown in this illustration [it was actually just adapted from the heraldic coat of arms crest of the city of St. Etienne, France - home of Stronglight]: https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2383/...d0b4eccc_b.jpg
I'm pretty sure those are Stronglight model 104 cranks, and I believe that logo design [the lettering above the fluting] was used from the late 1970s until around 1983. They used the same 122 mm. Bolt Circle Diameter as the earlier Stronglight mod. 93 cranks, but these had a more modern looking 5-arm spider, so more like a Campy crankset... only better [IMHO]- since those allowed inner chainrings down to 38 teeth. Nice quality, really.
Here is a catalogue page (from around 1984) - only difference is simply the newer Stronglight "crest" shown in this illustration [it was actually just adapted from the heraldic coat of arms crest of the city of St. Etienne, France - home of Stronglight]: https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2383/...d0b4eccc_b.jpg
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Well, looks like the seller decided to change the bidding from $90 to a BIN of $340.
I thought there might be a possibility of getting it cheaper than that. Oh well.
I thought there might be a possibility of getting it cheaper than that. Oh well.
Last edited by YoKev; 01-07-09 at 04:51 AM.










