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09-24-15, 10:52 AM
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I'm seriously considering digging them up from wherever they're hiding, giving them a tuneup, and selling. But, fully tuned, somewhere around $100. And, I know that unless I get a good deal on things like tires, I can easily end up spending more than they're worth tuning (plus time).
I think one of the problems is that there was a complete lack of low-end road bikes from about 1980 to 2010, when MTBs were King of the road, so it is pushing up the value of some of the old junkers. But, yes, 99% of the people dealing with these things can't recognize a good one from a junker, and have no idea how to price them. Hopefully not to many buyers get fooled, but I assume some do.
At least all the chrome looks flashy... not necessarily light, but flashy.
09-24-15, 12:43 PM
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I wonder if that Varsity is still available? Looks like a steal!!! I haven't even seen any on CL this week for <$100 in 5x this condition... Wait yes I have.
09-24-15, 01:11 PM
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This is not C&V, and I built a Troll up for my wife, so I love the model, but this ad just beggars belief.
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09-24-15, 01:36 PM
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Wow, I know rohloff IGH-14 will run a couple grand, but add in the rest of it at a generous ballpark of $1500, and apply a typical CL discount, then up 25% to preemptively counter lowballers, and yeah I guess that adds up to $5250! (if you carry a 1 as a 3 or 4!)
09-24-15, 11:04 PM
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Sometimes one runs into the oddest things when shopping for bikes.
This is located under "Bicycle Frames" in E-Bay.
titanium
Seller is from Bellarus, with zero feedback as a seller, and 11 - 100% Positive feedback as a buyer.
I just can't find anything indicating that hard drives are supposed to be made out of titanium.
And, what does this have to do with bicycle frames anyway?
This is located under "Bicycle Frames" in E-Bay.
titanium
Seller is from Bellarus, with zero feedback as a seller, and 11 - 100% Positive feedback as a buyer.
I just can't find anything indicating that hard drives are supposed to be made out of titanium.
And, what does this have to do with bicycle frames anyway?
09-24-15, 11:37 PM
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09-25-15, 06:41 AM
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https://desmoines.craigslist.org/bik/5232869152.html
This is just funny to me since its so clearly NOT a Schwinn. It says 'HUFFY' right there in both pictures. Even if someone had never ridden a bike before, they wouldn't post this as a Schwinn.
Its been reposted a few times in the last week too, so the seller is taking the time to look at what they posted each time they renew the listing.
09-25-15, 07:43 AM
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https://desmoines.craigslist.org/bik/5232869152.html
This is just funny to me since its so clearly NOT a Schwinn. It says 'HUFFY' right there in both pictures. Even if someone had never ridden a bike before, they wouldn't post this as a Schwinn.
Its been reposted a few times in the last week too, so the seller is taking the time to look at what they posted each time they renew the listing.
Another example:
[h=2]Schwinn mountain bikes - $30 (Minneapolis)[/h]Schwinn mountain bikes
mens bike...gear shift broken...$30...
09-25-15, 07:46 AM
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Is this guy saying, what I think he's saying?
A steal of a deal ..I did now you can SCHWINN BIKE
A steal of a deal ..I did now you can SCHWINN BIKE - $35 (HILLS)
SCHWINN HYBRID BIKE
28" WHELS
21 SPEED
I STOLE THIS BIKE NOW i WILL SELL IT TO YOU ..
$35
NO DELIVERIES BUT WILL TRADE FOR
LATE AT NIGHT IS GOOD ..i DON'T WORK SO i AM HERE ALL THE TIME
A steal of a deal ..I did now you can SCHWINN BIKE
A steal of a deal ..I did now you can SCHWINN BIKE - $35 (HILLS)
SCHWINN HYBRID BIKE
28" WHELS
21 SPEED
I STOLE THIS BIKE NOW i WILL SELL IT TO YOU ..
$35
NO DELIVERIES BUT WILL TRADE FOR
LATE AT NIGHT IS GOOD ..i DON'T WORK SO i AM HERE ALL THE TIME
09-25-15, 10:28 AM
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Where did Schwinn manufacturing stop and "farming it out" start?
So many components said "Schwinn Approved" on them. I.E. custom for Schwinn, but did they make them? Especially moving into the later years as they started importing bikes and frames.
Certainly some companies such as Murray made bikes with other labels on them.
But... yes, one would think a seller would pay attention to the label on the bike. A bit harder to tell if it has been repainted, but still it sometimes has the brand embossed somewhere on the frame.
So many components said "Schwinn Approved" on them. I.E. custom for Schwinn, but did they make them? Especially moving into the later years as they started importing bikes and frames.
Certainly some companies such as Murray made bikes with other labels on them.
But... yes, one would think a seller would pay attention to the label on the bike. A bit harder to tell if it has been repainted, but still it sometimes has the brand embossed somewhere on the frame.
09-25-15, 10:31 AM
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I'm not sure what the steal of the deal is.
Perhaps you should report that one to your local PD and see if they can sort it out.
A joke?
Seeing if someone will actually take the bait?
Meaning he got it for a good price?
Anyway, report it to your Police Department.. and let them unravel the facts.
Perhaps you should report that one to your local PD and see if they can sort it out.
A joke?
Seeing if someone will actually take the bait?
Meaning he got it for a good price?
Anyway, report it to your Police Department.. and let them unravel the facts.
09-25-15, 10:39 AM
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I'm not sure what the steal of the deal is.
Perhaps you should report that one to your local PD and see if they can sort it out.
A joke?
Seeing if someone will actually take the bait?
Meaning he got it for a good price?
Anyway, report it to your Police Department.. and let them unravel the facts.
Perhaps you should report that one to your local PD and see if they can sort it out.
A joke?
Seeing if someone will actually take the bait?
Meaning he got it for a good price?
Anyway, report it to your Police Department.. and let them unravel the facts.
09-25-15, 10:54 AM
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Perhaps.
This sounds a lot like that London You-Tube video where a person conspicuously "steals" their own bike, (even in front of a police precinct) and nobody notices.
That may only be a $50 bike, but bicycle theft is a BIG PROBLEM everywhere. Even with the low-end bikes.
To say the police are too busy hassling people for petty traffic offences to actually investigate a person admitting a crime? Something is wrong with that picture.
This sounds a lot like that London You-Tube video where a person conspicuously "steals" their own bike, (even in front of a police precinct) and nobody notices.
That may only be a $50 bike, but bicycle theft is a BIG PROBLEM everywhere. Even with the low-end bikes.
To say the police are too busy hassling people for petty traffic offences to actually investigate a person admitting a crime? Something is wrong with that picture.
09-25-15, 07:15 PM
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Ok, this ad caught my eye... not as wacky as some... but... 
LOOK RARE SMALL FRAME MILWAUKEE BIKE CO. road bike - $450 (Springfield)
Ok, so this begs a little fact checking.
It turns out that Milwaukee Bicycle Company is the house brand of Ben's Cycle in Milwaukee. The bikes are made by Waterford Precision Cycles
And, Waterford is owned by Richard Schwinn.
A Conversation with Cycling Icon Richard Schwinn of Waterford Bicycles - Cycling Utah
Now, the owner, Richard Schwinn probably isn't doing a lot of brazing. But....
American Factories | Shinola.com (halfway down the page)
EJ Muller is Waterford's "top brazer", complete with beard.
Now, is that really a Waterford frame? Hopefully. Were the track ends added later?
==============================
Oh, and check out the reflection of the seller in the cabinet
Thinking about it, that bike looked awfully familiar.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post18132590
Blue road bike mercier - $550 (springfield)
At least the price is going in the right direction. And, the seller lists the brand of the frame, not the fork (which apparently doesn't match).
It still has the same funky brake setup that was noted earlier.
LOOK RARE SMALL FRAME MILWAUKEE BIKE CO. road bike - $450 (Springfield)
This bike is awesome!!!! Small frame fixie...the frame alone is $1000 from Milwaukee bike co.Hand made by a dude with a beard in Milwaukee. Asking $450 which is a steal! Very nice little bike. Please call or text
It turns out that Milwaukee Bicycle Company is the house brand of Ben's Cycle in Milwaukee. The bikes are made by Waterford Precision Cycles
And, Waterford is owned by Richard Schwinn.
A Conversation with Cycling Icon Richard Schwinn of Waterford Bicycles - Cycling Utah
Now, the owner, Richard Schwinn probably isn't doing a lot of brazing. But....
American Factories | Shinola.com (halfway down the page)
EJ Muller is Waterford's "top brazer", complete with beard.
Now, is that really a Waterford frame? Hopefully. Were the track ends added later?
==============================
Oh, and check out the reflection of the seller in the cabinet
Thinking about it, that bike looked awfully familiar.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post18132590
Blue road bike mercier - $550 (springfield)
At least the price is going in the right direction. And, the seller lists the brand of the frame, not the fork (which apparently doesn't match).
It still has the same funky brake setup that was noted earlier.
09-26-15, 05:40 AM
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At the risk of being accused of getting my panties in a bunch over nothing....
People are just really bad at reading words. Maybe the duct tape confused them?
Another example:
Schwinn mountain bikes - $30 (Minneapolis)
Schwinn mountain bikes
mens bike...gear shift broken...$30...
Another example:
Schwinn mountain bikes - $30 (Minneapolis)
Schwinn mountain bikes
mens bike...gear shift broken...$30...
These are not typos or minor spelling mistakes. And the examples here are far from isolated.....see them often on my local CL. How do these people function in everyday society? Do they know what a yield or stop sign means? Do they consistently enter the wrong bathroom? What kind of job can you get if you see the word Huffy on a bike and list it as a Schwinn? And I haven't even touched on the grammar atrocities I regularly see. Would you feel comfortable with one of these people working on your gas meter or fixing the brakes (or should I say breaks) on your car?
I know, I know, big deal over nothing. But how do we compete in a global economy when such basic skills are missing? I read somewhere that the fall of Rome began when citizens couldn't read the inscriptions on their monuments (or the name of their bicycle). Are we doomed?
Sorry, rant over.
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09-26-15, 06:17 AM
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09-26-15, 10:18 AM
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I'm not sure Schwinn (or any other bicycle company) ever manufactured every single part on a bike (e.g. bearings, spokes, hubs, etc.), especially from the 1950s and later. Before that early Paramount frames were "farmed out" to Wastyn Cycles. In the early '70s some Paramount, Sports Tourer and Super Sport frames were "farmed out" to Pioneer Manufacturing. The first complete bike "farmed out" was the '72 World Traveler, followed a few months later by the World Voyageur.
"Sprint" and "Schwinn Approved" branding meant that part was made by another company for Schwinn.
So many components said "Schwinn Approved" on them. I.E. custom for Schwinn, but did they make them?
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The good news is, if it goes down, it'll come right back up .................
Colnago Dream Reflux Size Large - $1100 (san leandro)
condition: good
make / manufacturer: Colnago
model name / number: Dream Reflux
size / dimensions: Large (58 cm)
Colnago Dream Reflux Size Large - $1100 (san leandro)
condition: good
make / manufacturer: Colnago
model name / number: Dream Reflux
size / dimensions: Large (58 cm)
09-28-15, 01:24 AM
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Kestrel Pro Bicycle - $1000 (Coos Bay)
It does look a little like what BD lists as 2012.
Save Thousands Off New Kestrel K 4000 PRO SL with Shimano Ultegra 2012 Triathlon bikes
I'm not quite sure how the seller gets a 2000 out of a 4000.
And riding the bike for 1/2 mile?
2014 Kestrel Pro Series 2000
*Triathlon
*57.5cm
Only rode about 1/2 mile.Great bike just not for me. Paid $1500 asking $1000 firm also includes LRG Scott helmet. Cash Only.
*Triathlon
*57.5cm
Only rode about 1/2 mile.Great bike just not for me. Paid $1500 asking $1000 firm also includes LRG Scott helmet. Cash Only.
It does look a little like what BD lists as 2012.
Save Thousands Off New Kestrel K 4000 PRO SL with Shimano Ultegra 2012 Triathlon bikes
I'm not quite sure how the seller gets a 2000 out of a 4000.
And riding the bike for 1/2 mile?
09-28-15, 08:18 PM
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Less than $10 a pound!
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Waht teh? Baby Eddy...
Eddy Merckz Starnord Bikes 48 cm 39 cm
Someone more tech than me, please, save properly for posterity.
Eddy Merckz Starnord Bikes 48 cm 39 cm
Someone more tech than me, please, save properly for posterity.
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Waht teh? Baby Eddy...
Eddy Merckz Starnord Bikes 48 cm 39 cm
Someone more tech than me, please, save properly for posterity.
Eddy Merckz Starnord Bikes 48 cm 39 cm
Someone more tech than me, please, save properly for posterity.
Mid 70's Eddy Merckx bicycles. If you're looking at this then you probably already know how great these bikes are. If I had kids I would love to keep these but I don't even have a girlfriend 
There is some paint chipping and general dust and dirt from being in storage but overall good condition for being 40 years old. Both need new tubes but they're complete besides that. I haven't been able to find out much about these small frame Merckx except that they were made in France.
Orange 48cm - $375
Blue 39cm- $325
Please email or text at 612 - 8 zero 2 - 2144 with any questions.
These bikes are in Madison right now but I come to Minneapolis every weekend and can deliver.
Thanks!
Bike Bicycle Cannondale Fuji Trek Schwinn Road Bike Neat Vintage Hot dogs
There is some paint chipping and general dust and dirt from being in storage but overall good condition for being 40 years old. Both need new tubes but they're complete besides that. I haven't been able to find out much about these small frame Merckx except that they were made in France.Orange 48cm - $375
Blue 39cm- $325
Please email or text at 612 - 8 zero 2 - 2144 with any questions.
These bikes are in Madison right now but I come to Minneapolis every weekend and can deliver.
Thanks!
Bike Bicycle Cannondale Fuji Trek Schwinn Road Bike Neat Vintage Hot dogs
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Where did Schwinn manufacturing stop and "farming it out" start?
So many components said "Schwinn Approved" on them. I.E. custom for Schwinn, but did they make them? Especially moving into the later years as they started importing bikes and frames.
Certainly some companies such as Murray made bikes with other labels on them.
But... yes, one would think a seller would pay attention to the label on the bike. A bit harder to tell if it has been repainted, but still it sometimes has the brand embossed somewhere on the frame.
So many components said "Schwinn Approved" on them. I.E. custom for Schwinn, but did they make them? Especially moving into the later years as they started importing bikes and frames.
Certainly some companies such as Murray made bikes with other labels on them.
But... yes, one would think a seller would pay attention to the label on the bike. A bit harder to tell if it has been repainted, but still it sometimes has the brand embossed somewhere on the frame.
FWIW, I think any Schwinn frame made by a company other than Schwinn is superior to any frame made by Schwinn.