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#101
Death fork? Naaaah!!
Swapping out the BB bearings on my Aerospace Pro wasn't any big deal. Just make sure you thread a bolt on the end of the spindle before you start to hammer.
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Could you explain how this is best done? I'd like to try an inexpensive threadless bb but am really unsure how to go about grinding out the tubes in there and a little worried about damaging the bb shell or joints. Thanks in advance if you have the time.
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As for grinding out the tubing, I simply took a die grinder with a carbide grinding bit, and went to town. It doesn't go fast. Grind evenly and methodically until the tubes are nice and curved, matching the BB. You can leave a little half-millimeter stepping between tubing and BB shell if you are worried about the strength, though that's not really a worry.
Once you have it smoothed, you can install a Velo-Orange threadless BB, or do what I did - stick a pair of Italian-thread Campagnolo taps in there, lots of cutting fluid, and cut some Italian threads in that BB shell. Problem solved, and you can use a normal Italian BB, whether cup-and-cone, or a Shimano UN-74. Octalink too, if you wish.
-Kurt
P.S.: I almost forgot - Viscount/TA cranksets look great on Treks too:
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Oh yeah.....if your original spindle was the more common non-tapered version you'll have to file your crank holes down to make a normal tapered spindle fit.
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Thanks, are you talking about the grand cru threadless bb? It looks quite nice, and costs more than I paid for the bike. I'll maybe try a dremel and measure things carefully. I'd also like to try to keep the bb spindle as narrow as possible with either the old cranks or another fairly straight armed pair. I think I remember the spindle was a little assymetrical, and that picture of Iowegian's looks it too, I wonder if that works out ok with the grand cru.
First things first: Don't throw your money away on a threadless YST BB. You'll be more productive flushing your greenbacks down the toilet - that's how fast the bearings in those things fail.
As for grinding out the tubing, I simply took a die grinder with a carbide grinding bit, and went to town. It doesn't go fast. Grind evenly and methodically until the tubes are nice and curved, matching the BB. You can leave a little half-millimeter stepping between tubing and BB shell if you are worried about the strength, though that's not really a worry.
Once you have it smoothed, you can install a Velo-Orange threadless BB, or do what I did - stick a pair of Italian-thread Campagnolo taps in there, lots of cutting fluid, and cut some Italian threads in that BB shell. Problem solved, and you can use a normal Italian BB, whether cup-and-cone, or a Shimano UN-74. Octalink too, if you wish.
-Kurt
P.S.: I almost forgot - Viscount/TA cranksets look great on Treks too:
As for grinding out the tubing, I simply took a die grinder with a carbide grinding bit, and went to town. It doesn't go fast. Grind evenly and methodically until the tubes are nice and curved, matching the BB. You can leave a little half-millimeter stepping between tubing and BB shell if you are worried about the strength, though that's not really a worry.
Once you have it smoothed, you can install a Velo-Orange threadless BB, or do what I did - stick a pair of Italian-thread Campagnolo taps in there, lots of cutting fluid, and cut some Italian threads in that BB shell. Problem solved, and you can use a normal Italian BB, whether cup-and-cone, or a Shimano UN-74. Octalink too, if you wish.
-Kurt
P.S.: I almost forgot - Viscount/TA cranksets look great on Treks too:
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Kurt, where do you get all those Lambert cranks and chainrings!?
And what did you do with the frames?
And what did you do with the frames?
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noglider, here is one in Columbus Ohio for $125.
https://columbus.craigslist.org/bik/1738756809.html
or a frame in Boston for $75.
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/1742296860.html
https://columbus.craigslist.org/bik/1738756809.html
or a frame in Boston for $75.
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/1742296860.html
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Bill, thanks. I emailed the guy in Ohio and made an offer. Looks like it's in excellent shape, and that's an ideal size for resale. I'd like to ride it for fun and then resell it.
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You can always come to Kalamazoo and ride my Aerospace Pro, for free.
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Thanks, are you talking about the grand cru threadless bb? It looks quite nice, and costs more than I paid for the bike. I'll maybe try a dremel and measure things carefully. I'd also like to try to keep the bb spindle as narrow as possible with either the old cranks or another fairly straight armed pair. I think I remember the spindle was a little assymetrical, and that picture of Iowegian's looks it too, I wonder if that works out ok with the grand cru.
The Italian BB threads will allow you to use any Italian BB - including a traditional offset BB (Campagnolo included).
Ended up getting rid of the Windsor with a Nevar crankset. More suiting to it, IMO:
Trek 610 was sold to finance the '72 Paramount, as you see it. Glad to get rid of it; hated the thing.
-Kurt
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Thanks much... appreciate it. I'll post when I get the beast running again.
Here's mine. It is a tapered one and the spindle is 122mm long. Looks sorta like a JIS taper but maybe even fatter, can't really tell.
Oh yeah.....if your original spindle was the more common non-tapered version you'll have to file your crank holes down to make a normal tapered spindle fit.
Oh yeah.....if your original spindle was the more common non-tapered version you'll have to file your crank holes down to make a normal tapered spindle fit.
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Thanks much... appreciate it. I'll post when I get the beast running again.
Here's mine. It is a tapered one and the spindle is 122mm long. Looks sorta like a JIS taper but maybe even fatter, can't really tell.
Oh yeah.....if your original spindle was the more common non-tapered version you'll have to file your crank holes down to make a normal tapered spindle fit.
Oh yeah.....if your original spindle was the more common non-tapered version you'll have to file your crank holes down to make a normal tapered spindle fit.
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noglider,
Here is a Lambert for $100. Looks like it has some of the original Lambert components, too.
https://lansing.craigslist.org/bik/1743807304.html
https://s726.photobucket.com/albums/w...%20For%20Sale/
Here is a Lambert for $100. Looks like it has some of the original Lambert components, too.
https://lansing.craigslist.org/bik/1743807304.html
https://s726.photobucket.com/albums/w...%20For%20Sale/
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noglider, here is one in Columbus Ohio for $125.
https://columbus.craigslist.org/bik/1738756809.html
or a frame in Boston for $75.
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/1742296860.html
https://columbus.craigslist.org/bik/1738756809.html
or a frame in Boston for $75.
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/1742296860.html
This is my first road bike I have ever ridden, and first bike I have ever bought.
First day riding it I went on a 8 mile trip. I need a new seat asap! I am already looking into a 700c single gear set. White wheel/ red tire & chain!
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Other than pics in the brochures, I've not seen a Viscount Mixte before. $160
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/bik/1917420617.html
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/bik/1917420617.html
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In about 1979, they started being made in Japan. They were better made but they were also completely generic except for the cute font that Viscount used. That's what this is, i.e. not made by Lambert.
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I guess I should have checked my sources before I posted. The catalog pic I had seen was for a Lambert mixte, not a Viscount mixte. I've not ever seen one of those, either.
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Now, those are handsome bikes!
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Glad to see this thread. My sister bought a Lambert new and after riding it for twenty odd years or so she stopped after someone told her about the "death fork". A really lovely bike that I overhauled for her a few years ago and found nothing wrong with it, just a bit qwerky. I'll try to get pics in the near future as she doesn't live very close by.
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Like most of the Viscount Aerospace Pro bikes that I have seen, my top tube decals were quite tattered when I acquired my bike. So, like most of us have done, I just removed the remnants.
Recently, I noticed that H Lloyd Cycles now had new ones available. Mine arrived today. They look great.
Recently, I noticed that H Lloyd Cycles now had new ones available. Mine arrived today. They look great.
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