Heard today at my LBS:
05-03-09 | 02:40 PM
#26
Strong Walker
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Ye well, all the high performance CFK rims or wheels, LEW, Zipp, Lightweight, Campa, you name it, come in tubular spec. That bikeshop doesn't seem to know a lot about modern bikes, either.
05-03-09 | 02:49 PM
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Bikes: Lapierre Pulsium 500 FdJ, Ritchey breakaway cyclocross, vintage trek mtb.
It would be nice if local bike shops would be willing to order bulk sew ups at a reasonable cost for a buyer wanting them.
In my old catalogs I see ads for 15$ silk tires and 8$ cotton tires. Adjusted to inflation these tires still don't cost 100$ of today for a good tire. I'm hoping there will be some sort of invented tire where you can unzip and throw a new tube in, re glue it back up. You'd think there would be someway to do this.
In my old catalogs I see ads for 15$ silk tires and 8$ cotton tires. Adjusted to inflation these tires still don't cost 100$ of today for a good tire. I'm hoping there will be some sort of invented tire where you can unzip and throw a new tube in, re glue it back up. You'd think there would be someway to do this.
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05-03-09 | 03:22 PM
#28
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But yea you totally nailed it.
05-03-09 | 04:22 PM
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Flatting a tubular is great if you aren't riding down any steep hills or in the rain. The benefits of sew ups are a subjectively better ride. I have thought I noticed a better ride but after wasting tire after tire I gave up. It would be nice if local bike shops would be willing to order bulk sew ups at a reasonable cost for a buyer wanting them.
Second, they are safer after a flat than a clincher, because they stay on the rim.
Third, part of learning to deal with them is to deal with flats. As has been said, you slit open the seam, patch the tube, sew it up. Treating them as disposable is as silly as saying "wow, my derailleur needs tuning, I'd better just get a new one."
Unless you have a lot more money than I do.
05-03-09 | 04:28 PM
#30
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First, tubular tires are ridden today.
Second, they are safer after a flat than a clincher, because they stay on the rim.
Third, part of learning to deal with them is to deal with flats. As has been said, you slit open the seam, patch the tube, sew it up. Treating them as disposable is as silly as saying "wow, my derailleur needs tuning, I'd better just get a new one."
Unless you have a lot more money than I do.
Second, they are safer after a flat than a clincher, because they stay on the rim.
Third, part of learning to deal with them is to deal with flats. As has been said, you slit open the seam, patch the tube, sew it up. Treating them as disposable is as silly as saying "wow, my derailleur needs tuning, I'd better just get a new one."
Unless you have a lot more money than I do.
on the other hand, resewing a (good) tubular with spoil the ride, as it is close to impossible to reproduce the sewing quality of the factory job. Unless you are a much better sewer than i am
05-03-09 | 05:29 PM
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I can't speak for tubulars as I have never rode on any, but I have gotten wuite a few "violent" flats using clinchers. That is insanely scary at high speeds and I'm assuming the tubulars slowly flat out as opposed to a shotgun like blast?
I can see the appeal of tubulars, but can also understand the hesitation of trying them for the first time. Expensive right off the bat, but would prob cost pretty close to what you spend on tires/tubes in a given time.
As for price... From what I've read it's not really that much more expensive when you compare to tires + tubes.
I can see the appeal of tubulars, but can also understand the hesitation of trying them for the first time. Expensive right off the bat, but would prob cost pretty close to what you spend on tires/tubes in a given time.
As for price... From what I've read it's not really that much more expensive when you compare to tires + tubes.
05-03-09 | 05:57 PM
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Pheh. Just use a pedal strap instead, they work just fine, and even better than the park third hand tool, which is just a waste of money (the fourth hand tool is another matter, however).
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05-03-09 | 05:59 PM
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Don't ever leave kid-wrenches near your vintage Pug. I can see the kid trying to hammer-out the "lumps" he found on your rims (used to have those myself), and wrap your handlebars from bottom-to-top - with the ubiquitous glob of electrical-tape. And you don't want to know what he'd do with the square-tapered bottom-bracket. 
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05-03-09 | 06:47 PM
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Okay. So. I admit it: I was talking outta my @ss....
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