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Old 05-20-09, 05:05 PM
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I'd sure like to collect a Panasonic Ti ;-)

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Originally Posted by lotek
Schwinn Paramount Ti built by Serotta?
not sure on this one, it wasn't designed by Serotta, didn't use the Colorado concept tubing
but was built to specs by Serotta.
an undervalued frame I'm thinking.

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I love that bike. I've tried a couple of times to buy one on daBay, always ran outta beans at the end.

Didn't Match make a titanium Paramount as well?
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Titanium is really the absolute best material for making a bike frame. Stronger than steel, almost as light as aluminum, impervious to most things that kill lesser frames.
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Originally Posted by luker
I love that bike. I've tried a couple of times to buy one on daBay, always ran outta beans at the end.

Didn't Match make a titanium Paramount as well?
Match made the lugged 853 version at the same time/same graphics/same geometry as the Serotta built Ti version (1998-200).

1999 Serotta built TIG-welded Titanium Paramount:



1999 Match built lugged Reynolds 853 Paramount:



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I looked long and hard for my Passoni with titanium fork, titanium seatpost, titanium one piece handlebars/stem. It is apparently from 1992. I actually took it out for a ride today.
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I wonder how many of the 90's Ti frames were branded under a different name than the manufacturer. Again, there were a limited number of fabricators. For example, the Ti Basso and, I believe, the Ti Bianchi were actually Litespeed Catalysts.
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Originally Posted by caterham
bzzzzz......
wrong.
And leaves out the fact that titanium is relatively difficult to mine and work, which is one of the reasons it is also relatively expensive.
Plus, you can't use lugs with it. Unless you're Pino Moroni or Cecil Behringer, who figured out how. Or Bruce Gordon, who figured out how they figured out:


https://www.bikeradar.com/gallery/art...ow-14491?img=6

https://www.flickr.com/photos/buddhaf...7616446601672/

I think Bruce belongs in this thread, ATMO.
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Here's another rare one...

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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
I think Bruce belongs in this thread, ATMO.
+1. Those are incredible.
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Originally Posted by cs1
I remember when that came out. We all drooled over it. Super nice bike and I can easily see it becoming a collectible because it one of the first factory titanium bikes. Rember, Ti was very hard to come by then. Very few people outside of military contractors could weld it either.
+1 major cool bike.
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You guys have seen this one before, but I'll post it here for continuity.

1998 Litespeed Appalachian cyclocross. I doubt that many of these were made.

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Merckx titanium

My Eddy Merckx AX ought to be a classic, but I am a little biased of course. The frame was made in the USA by Litespeed to Merckx specs and geometry.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel
My Eddy Merckx AX ought to be a classic, but I am a little biased of course. The frame was made in the USA by Litespeed to Merckx specs and geometry.
Very, very nice. And I also use the same Vredestein tires on three bikes and not yet a flat. Plus it's fun to run them at 160 psi.
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Originally Posted by caterham
what????!!!! no mention of the team gewiss de rosa titanio's? these bikes completely dominated professional roadracing with over 40 wins in a single season('94)

And I believe that these were built in house by Ugo's son Cristiano...

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Originally Posted by vjp
And I believe that these were built in house by Ugo's son Cristiano...

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Ugo built a few as well, but yes, that is one of the bikes built by the actual hands of a De Rosa.
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Originally Posted by caterham
what????!!!! no mention of the team gewiss de rosa titanio's? these bikes completely dominated professional roadracing with over 40 wins in a single season('94)

What is that fork made out of, titanium as well?
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Originally Posted by vjp
And I believe that these were built in house by Ugo's son Cristiano...

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Cristiano has never picked up a torch in his life as best I can tell. It is his brother Doriano who builds the titanium frames. They are indeed special bikes too. They used steel forks (now carbon fiber).
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Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde
Cristiano has never picked up a torch in his life as best I can tell. It is his brother Doriano who builds the titanium frames. They are indeed special bikes too. They used steel forks (now carbon fiber).
CdM, are you sure about that? Everything I've ever read about the Ti De Rosa's say Cristiano was the the builder, except for a few built by Ugo.

Your knowledge of the marque is far beyond mine, but I wonder where I got that idea, as well as vjp?
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Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde
Cristiano has never picked up a torch in his life as best I can tell. It is his brother Doriano who builds the titanium frames. They are indeed special bikes too. They used steel forks (now carbon fiber).
I stand corrected

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Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy
CdM, are you sure about that? Everything I've ever read about the Ti De Rosa's say Cristiano was the the builder, except for a few built by Ugo.

Your knowledge of the marque is far beyond mine, but I wonder where I got that idea, as well as vjp?
Ugo and Mariuccia have three sons, each which works in the company. If you go to visit, chances are that Ugo will be hovering or looking after something in the work area. Mariuccia will normally be in the showroom or in the office. Cristiano looks after all the sales and marketing. Doriano looks after the titanium frames and according to many insiders has surpassed his dad. Danilo does Danilo's stuff.

I would gladly take anything that Doriano has put his hands on.
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Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde
Ugo and Mariuccia have three sons, each which works in the company. If you go to visit, chances are that Ugo will be hovering or looking after something in the work area. Mariuccia will normally be in the showroom or in the office. Cristiano looks after all the sales and marketing. Doriano looks after the titanium frames and according to many insiders has surpassed his dad. Danilo does Danilo's stuff.

I would gladly take anything that Doriano has put his hands on.
I believe Doriano was the brother at NAHBS this year, interacting with anyone who wished to chat.
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Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde
Ugo and Mariuccia have three sons, each which works in the company. If you go to visit, chances are that Ugo will be hovering or looking after something in the work area. Mariuccia will normally be in the showroom or in the office. Cristiano looks after all the sales and marketing. Doriano looks after the titanium frames and according to many insiders has surpassed his dad. Danilo does Danilo's stuff.

I would gladly take anything that Doriano has put his hands on.
Thanks for clarifying that for me. I had a feeling you would have the straight scoop!
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