So, you've got a winner there, huh?
05-27-09 | 04:17 PM
#26
PanGalacticGargleBlaster
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From: Smugglers Notch, Vermont
Bikes: Upright and Recumbent....too many to list, mostly Vintage.
If you're willing to endure the humiliation, we'll be there for you until you reach your target market.
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05-27-09 | 07:29 PM
#29
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I posted it on the Raleigh C/L. I was in the process of adding some things said here, but C/L decided not to work...
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/1192000479.html
-Gene-
Ok... got it to work. Added four things to it.
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/1192000479.html
-Gene-
Ok... got it to work. Added four things to it.
05-28-09 | 02:03 AM
#30
十人十色
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,984
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From: Tokyo, Japan
13) Your bike was not made by Shimano. I know you saw that name somehwere on it but trust me on this one.
This bike was made by Shimano. It's a prototype, owned and ridden by an elderly man who lives locally. For some reason I didn't get a photo of the whole bike, just some details.
Not that I don't agree with the point being made...
This bike was made by Shimano. It's a prototype, owned and ridden by an elderly man who lives locally. For some reason I didn't get a photo of the whole bike, just some details.
Not that I don't agree with the point being made...
05-28-09 | 07:47 AM
#33
Hammer Time
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 258
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Bikes: Paconi, Hillman, Sun Tourer + Mongoose Tetra SX
05-28-09 | 07:51 AM
#34
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I posted it on the Raleigh C/L. I was in the process of adding some things said here, but C/L decided not to work...
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/1192000479.html
-Gene-
Ok... got it to work. Added four things to it.
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/1192000479.html
-Gene-
Ok... got it to work. Added four things to it.
05-28-09 | 08:42 AM
#35
The Improbable Bulk
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 8,379
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From: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Bikes: Many
I have seen those too, and I write it off as another potential label, I think some old steel frames have labels indicating "High Carbon Steel" on them.
05-28-09 | 09:57 PM
#38
www.theheadbadge.com
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From: Southern Florida
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/bik/1192415529.html
Further revised to include the following:
-Kurt
Further revised to include the following:
1) Just because your bike was made in Europe doesn't mean you've got a winner. They made a lot of junk, too.
2) A low end bike that was $97.00 in 1976 is not, magically, worth $400.00 now.
3) Adult bikes do not have goosenecks.
4) If the chain is conspicuously rusty and kinked in the picture, nobody is going to fall for your claims of "mint condition."
5) If you get asked how many speeds it has and do not know nor care, pull your ad. Immediately.
6) Telling us that you found it in a barn is not a rationale for overpricing it.
7) Take OFF the $10 price tag from Goodwill before you take your Craigslist picture and ask $250 for it.
8) "Light and FAST!" . . . Ok, if you say so.
9) Not everything with those kooky, curvy handlebars is a race bike.
10) Neither is a race bike "improved" by flipping those curvy handlebars upside down.
11) Don't be offended if someone offers you an insulting amount that is far less than you want for your bike - they're just smarter than you.
12) Don't get ticked off if someone low-balls you when you state "make offer" in your ad. You asked for it.
13) Tires are tires and wheels are wheels. These terms are not interchangeable.
14) Breaks should be referred to as "brakes", petles or petals as "pedals".
15) Your bike was not made by Shimano, Suntour, or Campagnolo. I know you saw that name somewhere on it, but just trust me on this one.
16) Vintage implies it was worth something when it was new, otherwise it's just OLD.
17) High tensile steel - yeah, they put a sticker on the bike that says it but I wouldn't be bragging about it.
18) Go ahead and repost that 10 speed Huffy every week - no one will tire of its charm. If you're willing to endure the humiliation, we'll be there for you until you reach your target market.
19) ALL CAPS DOES NOT MAKE IT A BETTER BIKE.
20) Pictures of the LEFT side of the bike aren't worth much of anything, nobody can see the drivetrain. All things considered, perhaps you'd rather want to hide it anyway.
21) Blurry pictures add a negative symbol to your price tag.
22) If you steal someone else's photos (not the manufacturer's) from the web and use them to represent your own bike, you are absolute scum.
23) "Suitable for fixie conversion" doesn't make a POS frame any more valuable. For that matter...WHAT makes it suitable?
24) If you think your bicycle is worth a four figure sum ($x,xxx), the LEAST you could do is to spell the brand and component names correctly (eg. Trek, not treck; Schwinn, not shwin; Campagnolo, not Campagnola; and Shimano - not shmano, shimono, or shamano)
25) Include the size of the bicycle! Measured from the center of the cranks (the big sprocket) to the top of the seat tube (before the silver or black post that holds the seat [saddle].) It needs to be in either inches or centimeters. Both if you are nice.
26) NEXT, Magna, Huffy, Roadmaster, and Murray are NOT highly-respected brands. Get over it.
2) A low end bike that was $97.00 in 1976 is not, magically, worth $400.00 now.
3) Adult bikes do not have goosenecks.
4) If the chain is conspicuously rusty and kinked in the picture, nobody is going to fall for your claims of "mint condition."
5) If you get asked how many speeds it has and do not know nor care, pull your ad. Immediately.
6) Telling us that you found it in a barn is not a rationale for overpricing it.
7) Take OFF the $10 price tag from Goodwill before you take your Craigslist picture and ask $250 for it.
8) "Light and FAST!" . . . Ok, if you say so.
9) Not everything with those kooky, curvy handlebars is a race bike.
10) Neither is a race bike "improved" by flipping those curvy handlebars upside down.
11) Don't be offended if someone offers you an insulting amount that is far less than you want for your bike - they're just smarter than you.
12) Don't get ticked off if someone low-balls you when you state "make offer" in your ad. You asked for it.
13) Tires are tires and wheels are wheels. These terms are not interchangeable.
14) Breaks should be referred to as "brakes", petles or petals as "pedals".
15) Your bike was not made by Shimano, Suntour, or Campagnolo. I know you saw that name somewhere on it, but just trust me on this one.
16) Vintage implies it was worth something when it was new, otherwise it's just OLD.
17) High tensile steel - yeah, they put a sticker on the bike that says it but I wouldn't be bragging about it.
18) Go ahead and repost that 10 speed Huffy every week - no one will tire of its charm. If you're willing to endure the humiliation, we'll be there for you until you reach your target market.
19) ALL CAPS DOES NOT MAKE IT A BETTER BIKE.
20) Pictures of the LEFT side of the bike aren't worth much of anything, nobody can see the drivetrain. All things considered, perhaps you'd rather want to hide it anyway.
21) Blurry pictures add a negative symbol to your price tag.
22) If you steal someone else's photos (not the manufacturer's) from the web and use them to represent your own bike, you are absolute scum.
23) "Suitable for fixie conversion" doesn't make a POS frame any more valuable. For that matter...WHAT makes it suitable?
24) If you think your bicycle is worth a four figure sum ($x,xxx), the LEAST you could do is to spell the brand and component names correctly (eg. Trek, not treck; Schwinn, not shwin; Campagnolo, not Campagnola; and Shimano - not shmano, shimono, or shamano)
25) Include the size of the bicycle! Measured from the center of the cranks (the big sprocket) to the top of the seat tube (before the silver or black post that holds the seat [saddle].) It needs to be in either inches or centimeters. Both if you are nice.
26) NEXT, Magna, Huffy, Roadmaster, and Murray are NOT highly-respected brands. Get over it.
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05-29-09 | 07:40 AM
#39
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,978
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From: Atlanta
Bikes: Cannondale T700s and a few others
I been staring at that in particular the cable routed through the top tube....I think it may well be a higher end Miyata. it might be worth letting that stew for a couple week then low-balling it if indeed it turns out to be a better bike.
Had to post it in Atlanta and make and addition to dig the local single speed kings.
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/bik/1194670783.html
27) Taking a nice multispeed road bike that was posted here two days ago for a reasonable price raping it of all good derailleur parts, making it a single speed with a $22 Chinese bmx cog from performancebike.com does not double or triple its value or make it a "race bike" or "fixie".
05-29-09 | 08:04 AM
#40
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I like the Kawasaki green repaint!
I been staring at that in particular the cable routed through the top tube....I think it may well be a higher end Miyata. it might be worth letting that stew for a couple week then low-balling it if indeed it turns out to be a better bike.
Had to post it in Atlanta and make and addition to dig the local single speed kings.
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/bik/1194670783.html
27) Taking a nice multispeed road bike that was posted here two days ago for a reasonable price raping it of all good derailleur parts, making it a single speed with a $22 Chinese bmx cog from performancebike.com does not double or triple its value or make it a "race bike" or "fixie".
I been staring at that in particular the cable routed through the top tube....I think it may well be a higher end Miyata. it might be worth letting that stew for a couple week then low-balling it if indeed it turns out to be a better bike.
Had to post it in Atlanta and make and addition to dig the local single speed kings.
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/bik/1194670783.html
27) Taking a nice multispeed road bike that was posted here two days ago for a reasonable price raping it of all good derailleur parts, making it a single speed with a $22 Chinese bmx cog from performancebike.com does not double or triple its value or make it a "race bike" or "fixie".
05-29-09 | 10:02 AM
#43
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,978
Likes: 4
From: Atlanta
Bikes: Cannondale T700s and a few others
Additions a local came up with.
28) There is no such thing as a road mountain bike
29) Just because you are selling it for a friend doesn't make you an expert if you are not
30) If you don't list the brand and it is unreadable in the photos, we will assume it is a POS
31) Research the going price of your bike before posting
32) Just because it cost a lot 10 years ago when it was brand new and you have barely rode it, doesn't mean it is worth 50% + of new price (see #31)
33) Just because you bought it within the past year doesn't mean someone is going to pay close to what you paid, especially if the new model years are coming out and yours is now discounted
34) Don't use terms you do not understand - if it does not have rear suspension, it is not full suspension
35) Proofread - I have never seen a bike measured in feet but I've seen a lot of 26' bikes posted
36) If it is a *mart bike and you just paid to have it "tuned up", you probably just wasted your money as the tune up was probably more than the bike is worth
37) We don't want to call for basic information you should have posted or to have you send us pictures
38) Don't sell a used helmet unless you really did just buy it, otherwise it may have been crashed and is a safety hazard
28) There is no such thing as a road mountain bike
29) Just because you are selling it for a friend doesn't make you an expert if you are not
30) If you don't list the brand and it is unreadable in the photos, we will assume it is a POS
31) Research the going price of your bike before posting
32) Just because it cost a lot 10 years ago when it was brand new and you have barely rode it, doesn't mean it is worth 50% + of new price (see #31)
33) Just because you bought it within the past year doesn't mean someone is going to pay close to what you paid, especially if the new model years are coming out and yours is now discounted
34) Don't use terms you do not understand - if it does not have rear suspension, it is not full suspension
35) Proofread - I have never seen a bike measured in feet but I've seen a lot of 26' bikes posted
36) If it is a *mart bike and you just paid to have it "tuned up", you probably just wasted your money as the tune up was probably more than the bike is worth
37) We don't want to call for basic information you should have posted or to have you send us pictures
38) Don't sell a used helmet unless you really did just buy it, otherwise it may have been crashed and is a safety hazard
05-29-09 | 10:42 AM
#46
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From: Southern Florida
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-Kurt
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05-29-09 | 01:28 PM
#47
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Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,978
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From: Atlanta
Bikes: Cannondale T700s and a few others
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/bik/1195174448.html
Hmmm what would the proper response be?
A. "Will help load into car" Can I help you load it into the Dumpster?
B. "The Murray Company is no longer making bicycles which makes this a rare bike." Thank goodness!
C. "The Murray Company is no longer making bicycles" And there is a very good reason for that.
D. "The Murray Company is no longer making bicycles." Are land fills are filling more slowly now as a result
E. All of the above
Murray Team - 10 speed road bike. Shimano gears. New brakes as of two weeks ago. Tires in great shape. The Murray Company is no longer making bicycles which makes this a rare bike.
Will help load into car. Email me (Eric) or call me at this number
Will help load into car. Email me (Eric) or call me at this number
Hmmm what would the proper response be?
A. "Will help load into car" Can I help you load it into the Dumpster?
B. "The Murray Company is no longer making bicycles which makes this a rare bike." Thank goodness!
C. "The Murray Company is no longer making bicycles" And there is a very good reason for that.
D. "The Murray Company is no longer making bicycles." Are land fills are filling more slowly now as a result
E. All of the above
Last edited by Grim; 05-29-09 at 01:34 PM.
05-29-09 | 08:57 PM
#49
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Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,978
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From: Atlanta
Bikes: Cannondale T700s and a few others
Since we're ragging Murray, I thought I'd add what I could to the story of the end of the make.
I do lawnmowers on the side, and while a lot of folks used to rag on Murray lawnmowers, they improved and were actually a very good value toward the end.
Murray went bankrupt around 2000 and was bought by a Chinese company (some say Pacific) to use the name on department store bicycles. Unfortunately the buy out was heavily leveraged, and didn't work - the new company went bankrupt again.
While the bicycle side of the company seems to have sunk without a trace, the lawnmower side had years of long term delivery contracts with retailers, as well as purchase contracts with Briggs & Stratton for engines.
B&S bought the mower side of the company so they wouldn't be left with undeliverable engines, but so as not to alienate their other mower manufacturer customers they limited their production of mowers to three years - 2005-2007. In the Spring of last year you may have noticed that Murray mowers disappeared.
So now we have only two large mower manufacturers - AYP and MTD (they make lots of stuff under many different names) and coincidentally mower prices have gone up 20/30%.
I do lawnmowers on the side, and while a lot of folks used to rag on Murray lawnmowers, they improved and were actually a very good value toward the end.
Murray went bankrupt around 2000 and was bought by a Chinese company (some say Pacific) to use the name on department store bicycles. Unfortunately the buy out was heavily leveraged, and didn't work - the new company went bankrupt again.
While the bicycle side of the company seems to have sunk without a trace, the lawnmower side had years of long term delivery contracts with retailers, as well as purchase contracts with Briggs & Stratton for engines.
B&S bought the mower side of the company so they wouldn't be left with undeliverable engines, but so as not to alienate their other mower manufacturer customers they limited their production of mowers to three years - 2005-2007. In the Spring of last year you may have noticed that Murray mowers disappeared.
So now we have only two large mower manufacturers - AYP and MTD (they make lots of stuff under many different names) and coincidentally mower prices have gone up 20/30%.
Ehhh My Murry mower has lasted 12 years but in that 12 years I have had to rebuild the steering about a half dozen times. That included repairing the main steering gear and making new teeth out of spot weld and then grinding the profile back into it with a die grinder. Welding the deck mounts back on twice, Replacing the crank case gasket once. The drive belt twice the tension idler pulley twice (locked up destroying the belt).
I'm on the hunt for a mid 60's to early 70's John Deere 110.
Last edited by Grim; 05-29-09 at 09:31 PM.
