Ciocc Identification
08-11-09 | 10:00 AM
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I'm guessing maybe a San Cristobal frame - it has the cool, skinny lugs that made Ciocc kinda special (until the ditched them). I had one that was a bit earlier (no front derailleur braze-on) and a bit cruder (top of fork crown stamping was not as neatly done.) It's interesting that some of the graphics use the older "plain C" while the downtube decal has the later "flying C." It's a beautiful bike, and quite a bit more special (to me anyway) than some of the later ones. The chrome dropouts are a classy touch, too. Judging by the stamping on the rear brage bridge block, it's one of the many Ciocc frames imported by Ten Speed Drive.
My only question about the model concerns whether Ciocc was still making the San Cristobal as it's top bike circa '82 or had moved on to the Mockba 80 - some of those also have the skinny lugs. Maybe someone else will know.
My only question about the model concerns whether Ciocc was still making the San Cristobal as it's top bike circa '82 or had moved on to the Mockba 80 - some of those also have the skinny lugs. Maybe someone else will know.
08-11-09 | 10:49 AM
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I think it's a San Cristobal, because it has the right details and I don't believe the Mockba 80 came out until a bit later. Some of the Mockba 80's did have the skinny lugs, but on balance I'd bet yours is a San Cristobal.
08-11-09 | 10:55 AM
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Here's a Mockba 80 with the skinny lower headlug and the cutout, so you can see there are some similarities with your bike.
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However, note that the ebay bike has all "flying C's", whereas some of the graphic elements on yours are clearly earlier. That's why my best guess is San Cristobal. If the Mockba 80 postdated the Moscow Olympics as I suspect, rather than being from the Olympic year itself, then it's quite likely you have a San Cristobal. But in the absence of decals, and a slam dunk date for both your bike and the introduction of the Mockba 80, I don't know if you can be 100% certain. It happens in life.
https://tinyurl.com/
However, note that the ebay bike has all "flying C's", whereas some of the graphic elements on yours are clearly earlier. That's why my best guess is San Cristobal. If the Mockba 80 postdated the Moscow Olympics as I suspect, rather than being from the Olympic year itself, then it's quite likely you have a San Cristobal. But in the absence of decals, and a slam dunk date for both your bike and the introduction of the Mockba 80, I don't know if you can be 100% certain. It happens in life.
