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Old 10-07-09, 02:09 PM
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No pics but the two road bikes that come close to the parameters are a Colnago Master Light and a LeMond Fillmore (single speed but same frame as the geared bike except for the rear dropouts, as far as I've been told). Pics of both are on the site here someplace.

Eventually I'll probably swap out the c/f Fillmore fork with a steel one, and plan to have to replace the rims &/or wheels when the low spoke count spokes start to pull through the rims. 8-[

The Colnago is currently hung with a Shimano 8-speed brifter group. Eventually I might swap out the Shimano stuff for a Campy 10+ group if I come across a deal.

I don't know the specific diferences between a Master Light and the newer Master X Light apart from the "X".

Weights on both are less than a 1989 Schwinn LeTour. ;-)
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Can it be counted as a "racing bicycle" if it has DT shifters?

If so, the Allez double steel is the deal of the century at $610
Did I see eyelets for fenders on that fork and rear dropouts? MMMM I really like red too
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Originally Posted by caterham
very nice,cyclotoine! a shop owner near here has one of those billato marins and just loves it.btw-whaddya think of the doubletap red stuff? tempting gear.
Thanks, I like the red so much that I sold my 10s centaur group in favour of a rival group for my cross bike. Being able to get an inexpensive hollow 180mm alloy crank was one reason, the other is cheeper chains and cassettes and more abundant deals on cheep wheels (like the set of WH-600s I had kicking around).

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i hated the black plastic look and the saddle hated me so i've reverted to an older square taper record alloy crankset, ti seatpin and my tried & true antique regal saddles. it tips in at just barely under 17.8 now and i'm fine with that.
outfitted with full 2009 campy record UT carbon and a modern saddle,i'm pretty sure it'd balance out at around 16.5 - 16.7.,less with a trick set of wheels
Yeah if a 2008 10s 180mm record UT cranks were to fall from the sky I'd probably slap it on, hell I could probably save weight by installing my 2009 180mm rival cranks but I paid a lot more for the 185mm TA cranks and for the Phil wood titanium magnum 103mm BB with alloy cups so I makes sense to keep the expensive parts with the expensive bike, plus I love the 185s for climbing, lots of torque. The 3ttt bar and stem is the latest edition and these are without a doubt the most comfortable bars I have ever owned.
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Steel is the new carbon and nobody does it better than Dario Pegoretti, who has been hand-building frames in northern Italy since 1987. Pegoretti calls steel ‘our’ material and he has certainly made it his own over the last two decades. The first Italian builder to use lugless TIG welding, a Pegoretti frame is the result of years of developing and refining a traditional art.
Some of the most obvious refinements that Pegoretti has made to modernise his bikes include increasing the tube diameters. Although Pegoretti swears by round tubing — Columbus Niobium Spirit in this case— insisting a round profile offers the best compromise between lateral strength and resistance to torsion, the diameter of the Duende’s down tube is a wide 38mm. Its top tube and seat tube measure 31.8mm.
Pegorettis are available as custom builds, but they also come in stock sizes — the price is the same for each. We had a 56cm Duende, which has a 56.5cm top tube. Retail price for frame and fork is £1,600.
Built up with the affordable Centaur groupset and Mavic Aksium Race wheels, it isn’t the lightest bike, weighing just over 20lb. But if weight is your main concern, buy a mass-produced carbon bike from the Far East. With steel, it’s all about ride quality and the Pegoretti delivers a ride of undisputed quality, and is much stiffer than you’d expect. It stops short of being unforgiving, but unless you’re a heavyweight sprinter you don’t need a firmer ride than this.
The finish is stunning. The paint is lustrous and thick and the graphics traditional yet eye-catching — this particular scheme was designed especially for distributor Mosquito Bikes. ‘Beautiful’ is the word most people have used to describe it. We’re not arguing.
Pegoretti Duende: Distributor Mosquito Bikes
Price £1,600 (f/f)
Frame Columbus Niobium Spirit
Fork Reynolds Ouzo Comp
Size range 49-61cm in 1cm increments, or custom fiting
Weight 20.5lb (9.3kg)
Groupset Campagnolo Centaur
Wheels Mavic Aksium Race
Size tested 56

Verdict

A beautiful bicycle made in an artisan style in Italy.
Reviewer: Simon Smythe
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Originally Posted by scozim
I have a 1997 Bianchi Trofeo. It was my primary ride until I got my Gitane's. It's a solid, lugged steel frame.

Shimano headset and bottom bracket, Campy Mirage 8 spd ergo brifters, EXA-drive cassette, Campy Avanit brakes and derailleurs and Campy Athena 53-39 crankset. The rear wheel is a Mavic Open Sport and the front the original Campy Melbourne. It's a little heavier than expected and the wheels would make a big difference - but I love the way the bike rides.
I had one, too. Excellent bike. Bianchi chro-mo frame, Had Campy Ergos, FD/RD. I swapped in a Veloce crankset for the Miche (to stausty). Miche hubs but Campy rims and Cinelli steering. Great bike, in celeste, too. Bianchi did in 1997 what a lot are trying to do now. I sort of wish they'd do it again.
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