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Old 12-02-18, 06:21 PM
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I think CV-6 is correct. You have a Carre/Lejeune in Elvish livery. The distinctive Carre stay caps, fishmouth dropout finish, brake bridge reinforcement and braze-on seat bolt ears all say Carre. The Lejeunes he built, however, had that particular arrangement of the top tube brake cable stops and that unique cable guide for the rear derailleur on the drive side seat stay. So cool that the bike is so meaningful to you and the lack of a serial is often the case with Carre builds. My Carre/Bertin C 37 doesn't have one either.
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Old 12-02-18, 07:24 PM
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I think CV-6 is correct. You have a Carre/Lejeune in Elvish livery. The distinctive Carre stay caps, fishmouth dropout finish, brake bridge reinforcement and braze-on seat bolt ears all say Carre. The Lejeunes he built, however, had that particular arrangement of the top tube brake cable stops and that unique cable guide for the rear derailleur on the drive side seat stay. So cool that the bike is so meaningful to you and the lack of a serial is often the case with Carre builds. My Carre/Bertin C 37 doesn't have one either.
What year would you think my Carré / Elvish could be? Lynn? Jim?*
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Based on the 531 decal, after 1973. Prior to 1979 on the other end. Those decals could have been left over but the overall characteristics of the frame tend to put the end range date on it. The cutouts in the lugs are indicative of a top of the line frame. Carré built for a lot of brands, but until this frame, I never saw another brand other than Lejeune having the seat stay cable guide as pointed out by bertinjim.
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Old 12-03-18, 01:15 AM
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I spent the afternoon yesterday at the Alex Singer 80th birthday event. I've uploaded a gallery of photos here
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Outstanding. Thank you for sharing @Tychom!

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Old 12-03-18, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CV-6
Based on the 531 decal, after 1973. Prior to 1979 on the other end. Those decals could have been left over but the overall characteristics of the frame tend to put the end range date on it. The cutouts in the lugs are indicative of a top of the line frame. Carré built for a lot of brands, but until this frame, I never saw another brand other than Lejeune having the seat stay cable guide as pointed out by bertinjim.
Thank you so much for all the info! It has always been so special to me but knowing nothing about its history was sad. I begged the guy that sold it to me to put me in contact with his dad who gave it to him but he formally refused to talk to him. Now i know a lot more and i love it even more. I always thought it was built by a "mason" or so. Especially with the "fabrication francaise" decal with the hammer, there something magic about this bike... Well, now i know who built it and i get a confirmation that its special. I was offered money for it several times back in Montreal, i always said even a few thousands dollars wouldnt convince me. Im so glad i held on to it. Thank again! You made my day

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Originally Posted by Tychom
I spent the afternoon yesterday at the Alex Singer 80th birthday event. I've uploaded a gallery of photos here
What an event that must have been. Great photos.
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I would think a very late 1960s or early 1970s production for your Carre/Lejeune/Elvish due to production details. Your bike's production details are similar to this Carre/Lejeunne:



There are further details here at Classic Factory lightweights including what is possibly Jan Janssen's TdF bike by Carre. Glad you are getting the background to the bike that the originally seller cannot or will not provide. Be aware that bikes were often re-decaled to suit racers who changed teams but not bikes. It was far easier and cheaper to re-spray and re-decal in a new livery than provide an amateur or semi-pro with new equipment.
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Thank you for sharing those Singer photos. Severe bike lust.
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Old 12-07-18, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bertinjim
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I would think a very late 1960s or early 1970s production for your Carre/Lejeune/Elvish due to production details. Your bike's production details are similar to this Carre/Lejeunne:

There are further details here at Classic Factory lightweights including what is possibly Jan Janssen's TdF bike by Carre. Glad you are getting the background to the bike that the originally seller cannot or will not provide. Be aware that bikes were often re-decaled to suit racers who changed teams but not bikes. It was far easier and cheaper to re-spray and re-decal in a new livery than provide an amateur or semi-pro with new equipment.
Thanks Jim for the clues. Ive been scanning pictures of carré's bikes year by year and it really looks like its a late 60's early 70's as you said. Id say 69/70 but ill keep looking...*

I never mentionned bb shell is RGF, would it ring a bell?

Also the steerer has a piece of wood at the bottom...
I need to get that steerer off the bike and see if theres something stamped on it.

What components would you think it originally came with? Campy nuovo?

Not that im planning to bring it back to original, just curious...
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1982 PFN-10
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Old 12-07-18, 09:30 PM
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RGF was used frequently by builders of that period. The wood in the steerer is typical of high end French bikes of this time. The wood plug acted as a fail safe in case the steerer column broke at the crown/steering column joint. All 3 of my PX 10s had them and I know many other owners of French bikes had the same experience. The wood plug in combination with the brake fixing bolt acted to hold the steerer column and crown in case of failure. The steerer itself may be a Nervor or Reynolds and the brand will be stamped into the steerer just above the crown joint. If it's a 69-70s frameset, the OEM equipment will be high end French: Stronglight P3 or V4 headset and a 93 crankset, Normandy HF Luxe Competition hubs, Simplex F & R Criterium derailleurs, Simplex seatpost, a Brooks or Ideale saddle, Mafac Racer Brakes, and tubular rims and tires. An alternative would be early an Campy Nuovo Record gruppo.
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i got her in 2004 with all 1985 shimano 600 components. now shes kind of an anachronic poutine. shes a mix of generations and origins but shes still the best climber i ever knowned...
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Originally Posted by Tychom
I spent the afternoon yesterday at the Alex Singer 80th birthday event. I've uploaded a gallery of photos here

Love the photos. Somewhere, somewhere hanging in a barn or shed is an Alex Singer; just waiting, collecting dust, waiting for me to find it. Someday I'll own one.
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Just finished my 1972 Peugeot UO-8 Path Racer.

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Just finished my 1972 Peugeot UO-8 Path Racer.

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Good job! you work very well!!
I hope you will wax the chain instead of oil so it stays gold..
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Good job! you work very well!!
I hope you will wax the chain instead of oil so it stays gold..
Will do.

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Just finished my 1972 Peugeot UO-8 Path Racer.

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Very spiffy! Well done!!!
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Just finished my 1972 Peugeot UO-8 Path Racer.

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Very spiffy! Well done!!!
Thanks Honusms! Had lots of fun with this one!

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My recent find - Gold '73 Gitane Tour de France

Here's a gold Gitane TdF I bought off Craigslist in October. In high school (1973) I rode my first one all over Eastern North Carolina while my friends were riding Schwinns! Talk about follow the leader. So now, 45 years older and 50 lbs heavier, after looking for another TdF on Craigslist for 3 years (sold my first one in college, and regretted it ever since), I'm finally losing weight, getting over saddle sores and remembering why I love this model so much. Didn't know they produced gold ones though until I spotted this one...1973-4 model.

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Here is the Elvish bicycle that made me fall in love with cycling. It was given to me from a coworker that had it sitting in his garage. It came from his dad, but he didnt talk to him to anymore, so i was never able to get some piece of history from the previous owner. That bike litterally changed my life... I had been biking to commute in Montreal for years, but that bike was so smooth and fast, i fell in love. Also i have to admit i find her quite pretty.. I started pedaling for fun, loving Montreal's climbs, got in better shape then i had ever been. Biking in the townships on weekends, I discovered i was a natural climber.. I could keep going on that love story but i wont haha! Lets get to more technical stuff


She went through some upgrades along the years. Got her with all Shimano 600 12 speed 1985 groupset, upgraded with dura ace 2x9speed. Frame was streched to fit a larger cassette. Upgraded the original Rigida wheelset to Campy nucleon. It has Campagnolo dropouts. Reynolds 531 tubing. French threaded cranks were retapped by Marinoni to fit standard thread clipless pedals(currently speedplay). BBcups are still french thread Shimano600, but axle was replaced. Unfortunately, i have never found the serial number on this bike, but it feels older than the 85 groupset i got it with.


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This post is probably illegal since this bike is only 10 years old and it is not steel. My other 16 bikes are all vintage steel. Here is my 2008 Look 585 plastic bike.

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She was covered in a thick layer of grime, grease and dust when I first met her in a shopping mall parking lot, a CL transaction. Overhauled everything, changed some things (chainrings, stem, saddle), added fenders, built new set of wheels, and glued on my first tubulars. I got a little carried away, arguably, but I learned so much. And she rides so sweetly.

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She was covered in a thick layer of grime, grease and dust when I first met her in a shopping mall parking lot, a CL transaction. Overhauled everything, changed some things (crankset, stem, saddle), added fenders, built new set of wheels, and glued on my first tubulars. I got a little carried away, arguably, but I learned so much. And she rides so sweetly.
Beautiful! The read bar tape is a wonderful accent.
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