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Old 04-27-13, 08:34 AM
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Thanks for the warm welcome. Nice to see others who apreciate the French bikes even more than I do! To give you bit more information on the Moto TC bike I purchased earlier this week. I found it at a garage sale just down the street from auchencrow's house in Detriot!

How I came to find the bike is that I happended upon a small bike shop here in Iowa. The shop owner was selling the bike for a friend of his who purchased the new and hardly ever rode it! How you see it is how I found it, haven't even taken a rag to it yet! A real gem, I know. It came with the original wheels and extra Campagnolo parts. The unfortunate part is that the bottle cages are rivnut on the frame. I would have liked it better had that not been the case but beggers can't be choosers. The bike had a few changes made but I will be putting it back with downtube shifters, as I haven't used bar end and really don't want them on this bike.
I tend to collect bikes (Peugeot's mostly) and included a picture of the other bikes I was getting ready for spring riding season.
Again, I appreciate the warm welcome and look forward to conversing with everybody about their bikes as well.
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Old 04-27-13, 08:38 AM
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Really nice find. Even with the unfortunate Rivnuts. Those holes could be fixed I suppose. Or not. Looks like about a '75, McCrane. What would you say?
Very similar to the one that just ended on ebay. Great bike.
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Old 04-27-13, 08:43 AM
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I have a catlog that came with the bike and believe it is a 76' catalog. Here's a picture, you might be able to tell better than I could.
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Mike. Hard to say but you can compare the specs in that catalog on the last page, with the Motobecane catalogs available online.
https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g2_itemId=26670, and narrow down the date. Of the catalog anyway. Determining the date of the bike is a little tougher to do but I like that kind of sleuthing. Just for fun. There are a few key features which help but a lot of it is component dates, which are circumstantial evidence at best. The date code on the back of your crank arms, wheel lock nuts and rear derailleur will help, but they were typically a year, or even two, old by the time they used them.

Here's a recent thread on a TC. I added what little I know about dating, which aint much. https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...pion-Team-here

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Old 04-27-13, 03:07 PM
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Today, my 1984 PEUGEOT PH10LS with "carbolite 103 "frame,CLB brakes , SOLIDA crankset....
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Old 04-27-13, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bertinjim
This 531 framed Bertin is a mid-1960s C 37 racing bike conversion. It has a full set of braze-ons including the pivots for the Mafac Competition centrepulls. Wiring for the generator headlight and taillight is internal through the frame and the aluminium fenders. The fender stays, rear brake stop and headlight bracket were custom Mariposa pieces made by Mike Barry at Bicycle Specialties where the bike was restored.
Very pretty, Jim. Deserves a full-size representation:

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Old 04-27-13, 03:53 PM
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Here is another of my old French bikes. I purchased this new back in 1977. Also an early 70's PX10
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Old 04-27-13, 04:02 PM
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The Bertin is stunning!!
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Old 04-27-13, 05:12 PM
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So is that Peugeot. A beaut.
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Old 04-27-13, 05:26 PM
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Holy moly, is that a PY10?
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Old 04-27-13, 09:04 PM
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non-fixe- Thank you for the upload. Couldn't get the wretched software to co-operate yesterday and had to settle for thumbnail size or nothing.
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Old 04-27-13, 09:38 PM
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I have a terrible softness in my heart (or my head?) for brazed-on centerpull brakes. The French really knew how to make them...
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Old 04-28-13, 03:19 AM
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Thank you all for the warm welcome! Heres the pic from the right side:
And then I actually have a question, even though this might not be the right thread. I found this bike the other day, but I cant figure out what modell it is? Is it a PX10? It doesn't look like its in super good condition but is it worth 150bucks?
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Old 04-28-13, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JohanBuller
[COLOR=#000000]T....I found this bike the other day, but I cant figure out what modell it is? Is it a PX10? It doesn't look like its in super good condition but is it worth 150bucks?
It looks like a PX10 to me - Half chromed rear stays, SL crank and what looks like Simplex dropouts. AND it's ORANGE!
- In any case well worth the price.
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Originally Posted by mcrane
.... To give you bit more information on the Moto TC bike I purchased earlier this week. I found it at a garage sale just down the street from auchencrow's house in Detriot! ...
Cripes, Mike! My heart skipped a beat when I read this!
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Old 04-28-13, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wynklah
And this is my next latest build-up. A H. Chardonnet, built by Bernard Carré.

This is my CHARDONNET (one of the last....) , probably post 1980 and not B.CARRE frame .....with ofmega cranksets , all other components are shimano "arabesque"
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Originally Posted by papik
This is my CHARDONNET (one of the last....) , probably post 1980 and not B.CARRE frame .....with ofmega cranksets , all other components are shimano "arabesque"
Nice! Can you show some details?
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Originally Posted by wynklah
Nice! Can you show some details?
Of course ! with my apologies for the little pictures......I Think that the frame was made with columbus tubes and probably made in Italy....
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Originally Posted by wynklah
Nice! Can you show some details?
Your B.CARRE model is really pretty ! I have also seen one other very nice black CHARDONNET with a B.CARRE frame , but it is not mine ......
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Originally Posted by papik

Of course ! with my apologies for the little pictures......I Think that the frame was made with columbus tubes and probably made in Italy....
Is there by chance a fleur de lis on the fork crown?
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Originally Posted by CV-6
Is there by chance a fleur de lis on the fork crown?
Unfortunatly no .....but some parts seems PINARELLO parts......lug sets are PRUGNAT S4....


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There seems to be a great exotism about French bikes in US. My recommendation to you is to go to Europe or more precise Sweden. The import of French bikes was large here. They usually sell cheap on the second hand market, even after the new bike boom.
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Even the best ones, 1987? PX-10, Gitane SC, Motobecane Champions, etc.
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Even the best ones, 1987? PX-10, Gitane SC, Motobecane Champions, etc.
I am not a francophile myself, so can't tell the models. Yes Motobecanes from the 70s are also common here. And some Gitanes.
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Heh. I'm not a Francophile either. But one might not know it given my avatar.
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