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10-20-14, 02:13 AM
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VintageRide,
Looks like a very nice old Urago.
It's not clear about:
"....I was wondering about a clamp for the front shifter - he has another new one and was willing to make a template for me - seems a shame not to use it as it is new otherwise, also the mounting boss for the single down tube mounted shift lever broke off between the mounting points on the frame where the screw hole is and I was thinking of trying Jb Weld to secure it, otherwise I may have to try and use a more modern setup with two levers and a clamping band which would mean using a newer more modern style front derailleur."
1. Many of those bikes a had single lever mounting boss on the down tube. It looks OK in the picture???
2. JB Weld is an epoxy adhesive. They don't have the kind of shear or peel strength need to withstand the pressure that a shifter might generate.
Also, a Stronglight 49 crankset would be period correct for that frame. Nevar made some similar kinds of cranks in both cottered steel and cotterless aluminum.
verktyg
Chas.
Looks like a very nice old Urago.
It's not clear about:
"....I was wondering about a clamp for the front shifter - he has another new one and was willing to make a template for me - seems a shame not to use it as it is new otherwise, also the mounting boss for the single down tube mounted shift lever broke off between the mounting points on the frame where the screw hole is and I was thinking of trying Jb Weld to secure it, otherwise I may have to try and use a more modern setup with two levers and a clamping band which would mean using a newer more modern style front derailleur."
1. Many of those bikes a had single lever mounting boss on the down tube. It looks OK in the picture???
2. JB Weld is an epoxy adhesive. They don't have the kind of shear or peel strength need to withstand the pressure that a shifter might generate.
Also, a Stronglight 49 crankset would be period correct for that frame. Nevar made some similar kinds of cranks in both cottered steel and cotterless aluminum.
verktyg
Chas.
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10-20-14, 02:16 AM
#1627
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10-20-14, 02:33 AM
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verktyg - it seems the person I am buying it from was told it had been epoxied after breaking off, up until we were discussing this he had not looked into the claim until he put some force on the shifter boss with his finger and part of it came off. I guess that answered our question! If nothing will work to secure it we figured if I filed some of the protruding metal down it would be possible to put say some Campagnolo shift levers on the down tube over what is left of the original mount and that would keep them from hopefully moving. I wonder if spot welding or a wire welder would keep the the heat more local and not damage the paint - just trying to think of some options that will allow one to keep the single lever setup. I was hoping JB Weld might do the trick. And thank you for the crank suggestion, although being on a budget these days I was grateful the owner is helping me out with some very reasonable prices on some parts.
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10-20-14, 03:42 AM
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verktyg - it seems the person I am buying it from was told it had been epoxied after breaking off, up until we were discussing this he had not looked into the claim until he put some force on the shifter boss with his finger and part of it came off. I guess that answered our question! If nothing will work to secure it we figured if I filed some of the protruding metal down it would be possible to put say some Campagnolo shift levers on the down tube over what is left of the original mount and that would keep them from hopefully moving. I wonder if spot welding or a wire welder would keep the the heat more local and not damage the paint - just trying to think of some options that will allow one to keep the single lever setup. I was hoping JB Weld might do the trick. And thank you for the crank suggestion, although being on a budget these days I was grateful the owner is helping me out with some very reasonable prices on some parts.
verktyg
Chas.
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10-26-14, 07:48 PM
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10-26-14, 08:07 PM
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10-27-14, 11:56 AM
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thanks for posting. always enjoy an other Andy!
10-27-14, 11:22 PM
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for example
10-28-14, 01:41 AM
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I thought perhaps it was finally time for larger image - I found a frame pump that at least is from around the time period and also managed to find an Ideale Model 80 seat, glad to replace the terrible plastic one originally on there as my second ride was much more enjoyable, I was tempted to buy a Brooks or new Cardiff but held out for something appropriately French.The original steel handlebars were too narrow at 37 cm so I replaced them with some alloy 42 cm Phillips. In an unrelated thought I saw a 1966 Peugeot PX 10 on Classic Rendezvous that had white delrin Simplex shift levers and front changer which started me thinking that the Mafac Course 130 levers on my Lejeune could have come out by at least 1969 - food for thought anyway. I am still amazed at how light feeling this bike is as it is not difficult to keep a good pace, I doubt the Michelin World Tour 27" tires are contributing much to the experience.
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10-28-14, 07:07 AM
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Nice bikes, classic 70's and 80's! Care to identify the year and model? Not terribly good at Pug spotting yet, but is the white one with white bar tape possibly an 88 Versailles?
Here are mine:
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Here are mine:
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10-28-14, 07:10 AM
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This is my Peugeot PR10. It's a work-in-progress right now. Riding season is over, so during the winter I'm going to replace the rims/tires, put on new red bar tape, add brown brake hoods, and maybe get a brown leather saddle depending on what's out there. Sorry for obstructing the seat in the photo, but it is the original leather saddle the bike came with.
11-02-14, 12:05 PM
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My (probably1969) PAYAN during the "CYCLO LEGENDE" in Marseille last month
11-02-14, 12:10 PM
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Other view of the PAYAN during the climb of the "Espigoulier"...
11-02-14, 01:39 PM
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11-02-14, 02:52 PM
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Not a champion, but this is Papik on the PAYAN, (N°2) during the "CYCLO LEGENDE" ...
11-10-14, 12:46 PM
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Yeah, you betcha!
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Early 1970's Manufrance Hirondelle. It is nearly IDENTICAL to my first "ten speed" purchased in 1971-1972. Found it here on Bike Forum, payed way too much for it (paid a handsome nostalgia premium!), and had it shipped from Colorado
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11-11-14, 04:42 PM
#1649
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Heres my Moto all put back together
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11-23-14, 07:45 PM
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The good old days, 1978! A few of my bikes today, the Peugeot PY10 I purchased brand new for $725.00. Lots of money for a kid in high school at that time!