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Old 03-11-13, 07:37 AM
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Looks like this thread ended without a definite country of manufacture & quality level of the "New Star" hubs. The pictured hubs are French made and were supplied to Pelissier (and others?). Quality is close to or equal to Normandy hubs of that era.

I just cleaned up a set of high flange New Star hubs that are inscribed "Made in France" and have Pelissier Quick Release axles. Came on a ~1970 Dawes and are laced to aluminum Nisi-Evian rims. The hubs are one piece all aluminum and are a very close match in looks and quality to the Normandy hub. English threading on the rear hub, but has a SunTour freewheel installed instead of the original unknown freewheel.

I know this is an old thread, so no resurrection comments. I figure someone else will do a search and might appreciate more information and pictures on New Star hubs as there is little information (or interest) on the internet.

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Old 03-11-13, 12:14 PM
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New Star hubs came as original equipment on my Steyr Clubman, a mostly English-spec'd, French-equipped, Austrian-built bike from 1972. They say "Made in France" on both hubs.

The flanges on my 5-piece New Star hubs (and the freewheel threads) are alloy.
All 4 flanges are hat-shaped, surrounding the steel cups just like the OP's original photos (but different than Rancho's 1-piece versions above).
The driveside rear flange itself is threaded for the freewheel.

My rear hub is BSA/English threaded. The original Regina Freewheel is stamped F.I. on the back where a thread designation often appears.
Quoting Peter_B from bikeforums: "The older ones are marked with scratched letters "FI" for the Italian words for "fit Ingles" or English. The later ones have a single groove. No marks is Italian thread."

This freewheel threads freely by hand all the way onto an English Sansin hub, so freewheel is verified English-threaded for sure.
TejanoTrackie was right on about the freewheel threads btw. English freewheels usually thread freely onto French hubs, but French freewheels usually only go on several turns and won't go quite all the way without force.

One oddity with my rear hub is that the drive-side cone has no wrench flats! A defect, I'm sure.
I torqued it up against the locknut/spacer stack using big pliers, as the locknuts were found to be loose.

I also noticed that this well-used hub had a perfectly-straight axle, so it was surely made of very high-grade steel. All the bearings were in good shape so were also well-hardened. Adjustment was easy on these.

The solid rear axle is 26tpi, and the diameter is just 6-7 thousandths smaller than either 3/8" or 9.5mm.

The solid front axle is also 26tpi, diameter is again 6-7 thou smaller than 8mm, but only 3 thou smaller than 5/16".
So, consistency between the front and rear axle diameter's "hole clearance" suggests that both axles here are metric sizes (9.5 and 8mm respectively).

I can't speculate as to the threading pitch of the OP's Q.R. axles. They could be 26tpi or 1mm pitch (25.4tpi)

These hubs feel heavy because of their chromed-steel, 3-piece center sections.
Also, the aluminum flanges do not appear to have a machined finish, just as-stamped, so these were low-cost units.
The dust caps are integral with the flanges, so not removeable.

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Old 03-14-13, 02:02 AM
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I found another example of the OP's 5-piece hubs, only these say "made in italy" (in much smaller text) on the barrel, instead of "New Star".

No question they are from the same design, it's actually hard to tell them apart except that these newer ones were laced to 1975 Rigida rims (3 years newer than my other set) and have a less outwardly-positioned left side flange in back (which is a dish-reducing design change that also occurred in some of Atom's one-piece hubshells during the same years).
The metal finish is even identical, and the axle threading is similarly 26tpi but there is a faint "BSA" engraving on the integral drive-side dust shield found only on the older (French-made) rear hub.
A letter "R"-dated Shimano freewheel, (similarly English-threaded) was fitted to this later, Italian-made version, part of a wheelset that was originally fitted to a French ORLY-Motobecane.

So there was perhaps some kind of conglomerate having these hubs built in both France and (later) Italy, being shipped back to France.
Or maybe the old factory was simply moved to a place where cheaper labor could be sourced?


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Old 03-16-13, 02:52 PM
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Your additional info will be read by all who search on New Star along with my additions...one of the reasons I like these forums for historical bike research!

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