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Old 02-11-10, 02:56 PM
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Can anyone recognise this old 28" bike?

Hi all,

I bought this bike in NZ, sight-unseen, whilst I am living in UK. It is sitting in the brother-in-law's garage awaiting my attention. I bought it solely for the Major Taylor which is going onto the BSA, and I hoped the bike might be as old as it was advertised to be (>80 years old) as a bonus. It cost NZD $120 or so, about $80 USD. So quite an expensive stem but comes with a free bike!

I don't know what it is and I cannot identify the chainwheel on the internet.

Any ideas?
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Bsa?
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Not a BSA chainring.

But if it proves to be a BSA frame, I will be happy!
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$80 for an adjustable stem? You did good, actually. They go for a lot more than that on the 'bay.
I can answer this, though. We need better pics. What does the chainring look like? Is it fixed or something? Cause I see no brakes.
What does the headtube, seat cluster, fork crown, and dropouts look like.
Any serial number?
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Here are a few more shots. I can't check frame numbers, etc, until I get back to NZ in 6 months.
I wonder if it is fairly old (plain lugs like my 1910-20ish BSA), but re-rimmed with what look like 26" rims ( ? too much clearance under the mudguards). However the seat stay seems integral with the frame, not separate, and not bottle-shaped like the old bikes. But then there is what looks like an old old Eadie coaster rear hub.
So it doesn't quite add up.
But the vendor said the old lady he bought it from told him it was 'at least 80 years old'.
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Looks like an Accles and Pollack adjustable stem. They are becoming very hard to find and as mentioned can fetch much more than you paid for the bike. I wouldn't think the bar stem combo is original to a roadster with big steel mudguards, sprung saddle, 2 piece crankset and rubber pedals. Nor does the clearance doesn't look too out of whack. Many roadsters had integral stays. Also, if you flipped the stem into the low racing position, the bars would slide into the lamp bracket.

I'd harvest the bars and stem for a track/path project and convert the rest back into a roadster for fun or profit. Get that brake bridge tacked back into place. I like the nickel plated fork crown.
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