Trading thread for same model / different size trades?
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Nope, but that's a fine idea. I have two frames that I love but are a smidge too small for me (the Butler and the Cherubim). I was planning on selling locally, but might consider posting up. Thanks!
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I guess with a Pinarello or the like, your chances are fair.
I'd gladly trade my Norman, with its 55 cm frame, for a bigger one; but the odds of finding another one (let alone in the same condition) are practically nil.
The same goes for my Counterpoint Opus II; it has a 54 cm seat tube, and I'd prefer a 60. I don't know the odds of finding another one, but I won't be betting on it.
All that said, do love the idea!
I'd gladly trade my Norman, with its 55 cm frame, for a bigger one; but the odds of finding another one (let alone in the same condition) are practically nil.
The same goes for my Counterpoint Opus II; it has a 54 cm seat tube, and I'd prefer a 60. I don't know the odds of finding another one, but I won't be betting on it.
All that said, do love the idea!
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I have tried to do that exact thing, posted in FS/FT offering to trade a complete bike (56cm Centurion Turbo) for the same in a smaller size. I suppose I could take it down to the frame, but it's all original.
So far there are nibbles but no bites. Actually there is some guy in N Carolina who would certainly devour it, and I think he is watching as hard as I am for a 52-54cm Turbo to surface. He is kind of a Centurion nut, but I think he is harmless.
Or I might just sell it, a hipster down the block wants to turn it into a fixie.
I really shouldn't joke around like that, I don't know when Robbie had his last stress test.
So far there are nibbles but no bites. Actually there is some guy in N Carolina who would certainly devour it, and I think he is watching as hard as I am for a 52-54cm Turbo to surface. He is kind of a Centurion nut, but I think he is harmless.

Or I might just sell it, a hipster down the block wants to turn it into a fixie.

I really shouldn't joke around like that, I don't know when Robbie had his last stress test.
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My Raleigh Gran Course is a nice frame, but at 57 cm C/T, it's about 5 or so cm shorter than what I'd like it to be. My choices in 1985 were 57 or 62 (what was in stock) and I chose wrong.
It's fully Reynolds 531C, with Gipiemme chromed dropouts, Prugnat windowed lugs, sloping shoulders on “lugless” fork crown. Criterium geometry (74/74 angles on head and seat tube, high-ish BB, 998 mm wheelbase). Downtube graphics are vinyl letters, which are starting to peel, but it looks very good for its age, and has always been kept indoors.
I'd only do a frame swap for something 61 to 63 cm; no components. More pics here.
It's fully Reynolds 531C, with Gipiemme chromed dropouts, Prugnat windowed lugs, sloping shoulders on “lugless” fork crown. Criterium geometry (74/74 angles on head and seat tube, high-ish BB, 998 mm wheelbase). Downtube graphics are vinyl letters, which are starting to peel, but it looks very good for its age, and has always been kept indoors.
I'd only do a frame swap for something 61 to 63 cm; no components. More pics here.
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Great idea! I've got a couple I'll add...
Have: 58cm '76 Super Course in OK condition with good paint.
Would love: 54 cm Super Course in any color year condition...
Have: 58cm '88 C'dale SR500
Would Love: 54 or 56 C'dale
Have: 58cm '76 Super Course in OK condition with good paint.
Would love: 54 cm Super Course in any color year condition...
Have: 58cm '88 C'dale SR500
Would Love: 54 or 56 C'dale
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I've had some success at this, pretty much by accident, though...and not trades, exactly...
Sold 52cm Centurion/Cinelli Equipe, bought 56cm same.
Sold 60cm Centurion Ironman Carbon, bought 56cm same.
Traded 60cm Centurion Ironman Carbon, for 56cm Ironman frame (steel)
I'll put one out there, though.....
Have: 54cm Schwinn 564 Aluminum (actually 535mm) still in tedious touchup phase
For: 56cm Schwinn Aluminum model (564 didn't come in 56cm)...
Sold 52cm Centurion/Cinelli Equipe, bought 56cm same.
Sold 60cm Centurion Ironman Carbon, bought 56cm same.
Traded 60cm Centurion Ironman Carbon, for 56cm Ironman frame (steel)
I'll put one out there, though.....
Have: 54cm Schwinn 564 Aluminum (actually 535mm) still in tedious touchup phase
For: 56cm Schwinn Aluminum model (564 didn't come in 56cm)...
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Hmm. Seems that most of us are looking for something bigger than what we have.
My Rauler and Cherubim/Echelon are both roughly 56 x 56. I'd be interested in frames that are equally interesting in the 57 to 59 range.
Cheers!
My Rauler and Cherubim/Echelon are both roughly 56 x 56. I'd be interested in frames that are equally interesting in the 57 to 59 range.
Cheers!
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Hey Neal, I have a 24" 74 Sports Tourer in Cool Lemon that I'd trade for a decent Raleigh or something interesting in the same size or just a little bigger.
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I noticed that too. It seem to me that the standard texts/formulas/charts for this sort of thing convince people (us) that they need to be riding a smaller frame than many of them are really comfortable with, especially as we age, get less flexible, want bars higher, and also ride with the idea of seeing something, rather than going somewhere fast. I know that's what happened to me.
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I'll go the other way - I have a 62cm Belgian Superia frame set that I'll trade for any comperable frame set 52cm or smaller.
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I noticed that too. It seem to me that the standard texts/formulas/charts for this sort of thing convince people (us) that they need to be riding a smaller frame than many of them are really comfortable with, especially as we age, get less flexible, want bars higher, and also ride with the idea of seeing something, rather than going somewhere fast. I know that's what happened to me.
BTW, I posted three frames on the trading forum. We'll see what happens.
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I'll throw one in as well. I have an 81 Austro Daimler Vent Noir II, smoked chrome, original and full campy size 55cm. Looking to trade for same bike in 57cm or 59cm.
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i've got a 58cm c-t shogun touring frameset (or complete bike, depending-- it's the one in my signature) that i'd like to trade for something comparable but larger, in the range of 61-62cm.
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